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Sovereign Citizens: A Clear and Present Danger

Sovereign citizens believe local law does not apply to them and that brings them in direct conflict with you.

September 21, 2012  |  by Rob Finch and Kory Flowers


Last month near Spokane, Wash., a sheriff's deputy in an unmarked car was driving east on I-90 when he took notice of a red pickup truck in front of him that appeared to have invalid or altered license plates. The deputy called in the plate number and received notice that there was no record of the plate.

Backup rolled. Marked cars followed the truck until it pulled into a driveway. There it was boxed in by patrol cars and a standoff began, as the truck's occupants refused to cooperate with the officers and the officers wisely chose not to approach the vehicle. SWAT was dispatched. The driver and passenger of the truck were eventually cut from their seat belts and taken into custody.

Calling SWAT may seem like an overreaction to an expired or fake license plate. But the Washington officers were smart to do so.

They were dealing with members of an anti-government movement called "sovereign citizens." Sovereigns believe that the government has no right to tax them, issue licenses, or do many of the other things that the average American citizen has accepted as the roles of government. They also believe that the only legitimate law enforcement officer is the elected sheriff.

For the most part sovereigns and their beliefs were not a major concern for law enforcement until two years ago. That's when two West Memphis, Ark., officers—Brandon Paudert and Bill Evans—were murdered by a father and son team of sovereigns during a drug interdiction traffic stop. The sovereigns were later killed in a fierce gun battle in a nearby Walmart parking lot.

The West Memphis cop killings and the subsequent shootout put the sovereign citizen movement on the radar of many law enforcement officers, but there are still numerous officers who are not aware of the dangers presented by this philosophy and how to recognize its adherents.

Understanding Sovereignty

Crimes committed by sovereigns often include relatively minor offenses such as the manufacture of fraudulent license plates, registration cards, or currency. However, as this movement has quickly gained traction across the country with the assistance of the Internet and sovereign seminars promising an assorted array of "get rich quick" financial remedies, mortgage fraud, and banking fraud, threats against law enforcement officers and judicial officials by sovereigns are becoming more common place.

The tactics used by sovereigns won't always be violent. More often, a sovereign will use document filings such as liens and lawsuits against law enforcement in an attempt to overwhelm and confuse you. Due to the evolutionary nature of police work in the United States, you need to equip yourself with knowledge to protect yourself physically, financially, and legally from these criminals and their bag of tricks aimed at disrupting the criminal justice system.

Sovereignty and sovereign citizens have existed in the United States for nearly 50 years in various forms. The roots of the sovereigns can be found in the Posse Comitatus movement of the 1970s.

"Sovereign citizen" is a broad, general term that is often applied to any individual person or group that does not believe that the laws of the United States or the state laws apply to them. In other words, they are beyond the jurisdiction of law enforcement authority. The term "sovereign citizen" should be viewed as an umbrella under which you will find thousands of loosely organized groups or individuals that share one basic ideological principle but approach it through different paths.

Extreme Ire

Some groups or individuals use their sovereign claims in an attempt to avoid legal trouble and circumvent common traffic laws and statutes. Others believe they are at war with the United States and are willing to use deadly force against anyone they perceive as standing in the way of their sovereign rights. Violent sovereigns are a clear and present danger to law enforcement, and you need to be prepared to deal with them safely and effectively.

While each sovereign group holds its own specific creeds, conspiracies, and focal points, what they all have in common is an extreme ire for government and its agents, and particularly law enforcement. Sovereigns generally subscribe to a loose anarchist ideology, holding firmly to notions of archaic common law doctrines, or no law at all.

Sovereigns believe in an "unimpeded God-given right to travel," and therefore say that no officer, under any circumstance, has the right to obstruct their travel. That makes traffic stops involving sovereigns extremely perilous for officers.

Divided by Race

American sovereign groups are commonly delineated along racial lines. White American sovereigns tend to be concerned with the U.S. Constitution and state constitutions, and their interpretations of those documents in a historical context. African-American sovereigns often lean toward Moorish history and African culture as the basis of their sovereignty. Religion, particularly the Moorish Science Temple, may also play a role in racial division and recruitment or indoctrination within a particular sovereign group.

While there is often noticeable racial division among sovereign groups, it is important to remember that sovereign citizens all have the same basic beliefs and will share their criminal tactics with each other. Sovereign citizens, with few exceptions and despite their differences, will choose to unite against their one common enemy: the government and its agents.


When attempting to understand how a group or individual comes to believe in sovereignty and exemption from statutory law, you must first understand the foundation of the movement.

Sovereigns take legitimate historical events and obscure common law and twist and change them to fit their particular claims or assertions. Their hope is that the ensuing confusion results in law enforcement and/or the judicial system's unwillingness to effectively deal with them. The fact that most of their arguments and documents contain a slight hint of factual basis and an overwhelming amount of pseudo-legal language, including the mention of various acts, amendments, and treaties, only adds to the confusion.

One example common to the philosophies of many sovereigns is the Theory of Redemption. This theory claims that the United States went bankrupt in 1933 when it chose to no longer use the gold standard to back up its paper currency. Needing collateral to trade and conduct commerce with other countries, the United States began to use citizens as collateral to ensure the value of its money. Subsequently, secret bank accounts, containing millions of dollars, were supposedly established by the United States Treasury Department on behalf of each citizen, or "strawman," used as collateral. Redemption is used as a gateway by sovereigns to commit various fraudulent acts all in an attempt to "redeem their strawman" and access these non-existent secret Treasury accounts to satisfy various debts, including mortgages, cars, and credit cards.

Another ideological principle of sovereignty is the 14th Amendment. Passed in 1868 and intended to galvanize and unify the country as part of the post-Civil War Reconstruction Acts, sovereigns view the 14th Amendment as another example of government trickery. They believe that the United States government illegally passed the Amendment and "tricked" all the citizens of the state republics, for example the State Republic of North Carolina, into renouncing their state citizenship and agreeing to become federal "corporate" citizens through the acceptance of government benefits.

Sovereigns believe that the federal government forced the citizens of the former state republics into obtaining birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver licenses, vehicle registration cards, and other legal documents. These "binding contracts" are viewed as null and void by sovereigns, and as such, will usually not be obtained or carried by sovereign citizens.

Sovereigns and Traffic Stops

Regardless of the particular vein of sovereignty encountered by law enforcement officers, brushes with sovereigns can be extremely predictable, and successful and safe interactions with sovereigns can be accomplished if you follow a few guidelines.

The first thing you may notice will be a fraudulent registration plate affixed to a vehicle. The plate may or may not look like a slightly altered version of a legitimate registration. It will most often contain words like "Indigenous," "Sovereign," "Diplomatic," "Exempt," or "Private Property."

The plate will sometimes identify the particular sovereign group its owner is associated with such as "Washitaw," "Moor," "Mu'ur" (variation of Moor), "Little Shell Pembina," or "Nuwaubian." Sovereign license plates often contain images of a foreign flag, the United Nations symbol, bar codes, or hieroglyphic writing. Identifying these initial sovereign indicators, and mentally preparing for what's to come, is critical to a successful and safe encounter.

When you stop a sovereign citizen, the encounter will be unlike any of the thousands of vehicle stops performed in your career. While you are conditioned to motorists being frustrated or even confrontational about the reason for the stop and any possible penalty, sovereigns utilize a unique mix of bullying, intimidation, and confusion to coerce their way out of the stop.

You may encounter sovereigns who refuse to roll down their window or only roll it down a matter of inches and then slide you a "Public Servant Questionnaire," asking for your full legal name, home address, and other sensitive biographical information. Sovereigns, when stopped, may ask you to present them with your signed oath of office or to recite that oath. The sovereign will often attempt to utilize clever parsing of words to differentiate between a "vehicle" and a "conveyance," or "driving" vs. "traveling," all in an effort to confuse and intimidate you.

A sovereign may even present you with a bill for his time when you contact him. Sovereigns have been known to mention their "fee schedule" to officers during traffic stops, and will advise you that these self-created astronomical rates will be billed to you, all depending on the length of the stop.

Unlike the average motorist, sovereigns will not comply with simple instructions to produce a driver's license, registration card, or proof of insurance. They will argue with you about jurisdiction and the "victim" of the alleged traffic offense.

Sovereign citizens also believe their names are private property and cannot be used, for any reason, without their expressed consent. They will view you writing their names on a citation as a copyright or trademark infringement and, consequently, attempt to conceal their full names when asked. As a result of their belief that law enforcement has no authority over them in any situation, they may become violent if asked to exit the vehicle or submit to an arrest.

And expect to be filmed. Sovereigns often video-record their interactions with law enforcement officers in hopes of intimidating officers to not enforce the law. Some of these encounters are live-streamed via the Internet to local like-minded sovereigns, and some of these people could present a possible threat to your safety.

While it might not always be possible to identify a sovereign citizen based on vehicle or registration plate indicators, you should be aware of certain key words that sovereigns are likely to use when you contact them. The mention of the following words or sentences is usually an indicator that you are dealing with a sovereign citizen:

  • Indigenous
  • Aboriginal
  • Oath of office
  • Who is the party that was harmed?
  • Traveling in a private capacity  
  • Conveyance
  • Domicile  
  • 14th Amendment  
  • Strawman

While the traffic stop will be unlike any other you experience, you should remember that procedure and enforcement should remain consistent. Priority number one is safety. You need to have the right mindset going into the stop and be prepared for the tactics employed by sovereigns.

Once you identify the individual as a sovereign, it's important to not get wrapped up in the copious amount of paperwork he will produce during the encounter. Identify the paperwork as sovereign propaganda and of no significance to the stop and maintain a high level of officer awareness and safety. Decisive decision making and enforcement of the law is the best way to ensure maximum officer safety and send a clear message that these sovereign tactics are ineffective in your particular jurisdiction.

Finally, call for backup if you sense any physical threat coming from a suspected sovereign citizen. While violent encounters with adherents of this philosophy are rare, they can be sudden and deadly.

Paper Terrorists

Rumors and stories are currently circulating among many police agencies nationwide that sovereign citizens will initiate lawsuits against officers, departments, cities, and counties, and they will file liens against anyone who refutes their claims of sovereignty. Some sovereigns might even issue bogus-looking documents stating they are indictments or arrest warrants. For the most part, this is true. This most common and effective tactic used by sovereign citizens is called "paper terrorism."

The goal for sovereign citizens using this tactic is to initially frighten a law enforcement officer away from even initiating a stop on sovereigns, let alone making criminal charges against them. They want the threat of a lawsuit or lien to help insulate them from local, state, and federal rules, regulations, and laws. They aspire to clog up the court system with as much paperwork as possible and hope that the end result is no one wanting to deal with them because they are such a nuisance.

Sovereigns will usually add up the amount of time they were "inconvenienced" or detained, the value for copyright or trademark infringement for writing their name on a citation and, per their fictitious fee schedule, decide on an exorbitant figure for a lawsuit. These lawsuits are often filed in federal or state court and may be served on an officer at his home or agency. While meritless, the lawsuits need to be addressed through the proper channels and handled by your respective police, city, county, or state attorney in a timely fashion.

Sovereigns might also place a lien on an officer's property as retribution. While the sovereign never plans on collecting, the lingering effect on the officer could be devastating if not addressed immediately and handled properly. It is imperative to continuously check your credit for signs of illegal activity and to also check with the Clerk of Courts and Register of Deeds offices in your particular county for sovereign filings against you.

Sovereign citizens can and will be violent toward law enforcement. They do not believe in the legitimacy of the government, the validity of laws, or the authority to enforce any laws against them. This is completely different from the "typical" criminal that you deal with on a regular basis.

The typical criminal runs away or resists because you have the authority to take him or her to jail. Sovereign citizens resist because they believe that you are violating their sovereignty and that they are allowed to defend themselves using deadly physical force.

Sovereigns may not always be violent. It's impossible to know when they'll decide to use force against you. But you need to be prepared and you need to understand the mentality of this movement. If you educate yourself and the public on the multitude of fraudulent scams and tactics used by sovereign citizens, and you continue to maintain a high level of officer safety when dealing with them, you will be as effective as possible in combating this growing concern within the law enforcement community.

Editor's note: At press time two Louisiana officers—Deputies Brandon Nielsen and Jeremy Triche of the St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff's Office, Louisiana—were killed in an encounter with men suspected of being members of Posse Comitatus, a splinter group of the sovereign citizen movement.

Rob Finch and Kory Flowers are detectives in the Criminal Intelligence Unit of the Greensboro (N.C.) Police Department. For the past three years, they have investigated numerous sovereigns, leading to successful prosecutions at both the state and federal level.


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Comments (129)

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Cecilio Mendez @ 9/22/2012 3:17 PM

Great article and useful information. I suggest to work out a law that addresses the problems concerning the "paper terrorism" scenario. Something based on a case about a "non-citizen" claiming coverage by the laws from their country of origin, which are non-applicable on the USA. (I know, I know. Not counting diplomats!) Refusing to recognize our laws, prevent them from claiming their coverage and stop them from using our laws to clog the system. They refuse to recognize our Constitution, therefore they will be treated as illegal aliens. Just an idea...

Rich @ 9/24/2012 5:16 PM

The "paper terrorism" is illegal in most States. The US Attorney General for your State should be on board with the prosecution of the Sovereigns. Also if they are stating that they are a non-citizen or not a citizen of the USA, then they have no legal right to possess or own a firearm in most States. Everyone be safe when dealing with these people.

JANickols @ 9/24/2012 5:34 PM

Not mentioned was the fringe folks who don't pay taxes. Probably another argument of the Sovereign's. The 16th Amendment is the foundation for income Taxes and is an ever favorite of those wishing to pass over this thorny issue. Gotta goofy brother-in-law who pulled this off for about 10 years. IRS nailed his booty big time. Missed the joint because of age and half senile. FYI, you can have your Social Security garnished.

Good article and scarey stuff. They are very dangerous.

RICHARD @ 9/24/2012 6:23 PM


Joe @ 9/24/2012 6:30 PM

So if they claim that they are not a citizen and subject to the laws. Then they are in the United States illegally. Deport them.

Juan 10-13 @ 9/25/2012 5:07 AM

Yes Gentlemen.....we are dealing with a morphed-criminal. They can shroud themselves with whatever term or purported vision or demented's still criminal. Thank you for the wealth of information and Brothers for back up! You are the most important BEING...during the vehicle stop! God Bless you all.

Pradeep @ 10/25/2012 8:28 AM

Mostly crimes are caused by too many unnecessary laws, especially in the world of aliens and there is a lawful deportation for those law breakers regardless of knowingly or ignorently, in either case Paper terrorism is generated and promoted by administration by employing unqualified personnel or crooks in some countries.

Lherisson Tarik @ 11/2/2012 12:01 PM

This article may be great for some but I can really tell the authors' LACK of knowledge of the united States history and the notion of NATIONALITY, I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt they are european, US CITIZEN thinking they are American, and they only know corporate POLICIES. The authors try to associate the Moors, who are the Heir apparent of the Land (North, South, Central America including the Atlantis Islands), to the so called White supremacy is really misleading: Europeans are not indigenous to the Land, they are colonists who were seeking FREEDOM from the Feudal system of Europe at that time, the Moors received them and sign a Treaty of Peace & Friendship with the European Nations in 1786 renewed in 1836 so they can live in HARMONY( Treaty of Peace & Friendship with Morocco) The Moors have been branded Black, Color & Negro by europeans to steal their BIRTHRIGHTS. I hereby CHALLENGE the authors of this post Rob Finch and Kory flowers to TELL me what Nation Flag they operating under?
I can surely tell they don't know anything about International Law, the Moors are from a Nation and are protected under international Law ( Treaty Laws)

Lherisson Tarik El @ 11/2/2012 12:29 PM

It is unfortunate that all the comments on this site are made by people foreign to this Land, any european claiming Sovereignty should go to their respective european Country where their ancestors are from. Don't feel offended by my remarks because truth can stand on it's own and needs no apology. Sovereignty comes with Nationality, 13 amendment section 12 Said : "The Traffic of slave with africa is forever prohibited on pain of death and the forfeiture of all the rights and property of persons therein; and the descendant of Africans shall not be citizens. Many of the police agents and people posting comments never knew about this section of the 13th Amendment because it has been suppressed from Google search engine. If you click the 13th Amendment you will only see 2 sections and it does carry 20 sections. There is no such thing as "Black Sovereigns" because black is a legal status, it doesn't represent a nation. Finch and Flowers are acting under ignorance of the Supreme Law of the LAND which TREATY Law and The Moors who declare their Nationality are protected under international Law and can file Lawsuit against any corporation or public servant violating their rights, in international Court.

Anonymous @ 12/10/2012 6:49 PM

This is the most bull spit article I have Ever Seen.. A Sovereign is actually a person who is free, someone who follows no laws of man.. only the laws of the Creator aka God aka whom ever you believe to be the one who created you. A Sovereign follows Common Law which is the supreme Law of the land it goes above state, or Federal law.. This Article is presented to you by the Agents who wish to put down the True fact that Being a U.S. Citizen means you have no rights you have privileges bestowed upon you.. you can look it up in Blacks Law Dict. you are a Corporate Entity not a Living human being. Thats why they can whack a "U.S.Citizen" with fines, tickets, and come take your children when they deem fit. The American Public doesn't even know how corrupt the U.S. is. I ask why is it that the Pope is considered Sovereign then?.. yet every president of the U.S. always goes to the pope and kisses his ring once elected.. think about it!!

Azad Jace @ 12/12/2012 7:23 AM

Quite unfortunate that Police, Fire, EMS, and other "Public Servants" to include Justices and all other Oath-Takers, particularly our military forces [the most mocked on the planet], are so lowly regarded by the Elitists that have ruled the planet for the past 6,000 years (the same bloodline in many instances), financed EVERY war, and are very much pulling the strings to EVERY banking institution and every Govern (from Latin, gubernare: to manage, control, or navigate) and Ment (from Latin mente: thought, mind, or intellect) that they can't begin to realize that Education is but the regurgitation of information to prove on an examination, someday posting on their walls the awe-inspiring certificate, diploma, or degree, versus what could be Enlightenment, meaning the world to them if they would just open their eyes and see the signs & symbols which Occultists (Occultare is Latin: to conceal, hide, or obscure) have been using for countless generations. It's all around us....but by the VERY SAME token (although, token-wise, we spend fortunes blinded in & from our own ignorance), we could begin actually taking the time, the energy, and the intellectual capacities we were EACH granted at birth to piece the convoluted & distorted pieces together. It would show a quite different picture than one that the Druids still practice, although they have done so with potions & magic spells for centuries with wands made of the Holly Tree: they've just morphed into the very same Holly Wood devotees, but still very much enthralling the masses with Non-Sense to keep their minds so occupied and distracted (along with ample supply of the bi-product made from Chemical Fertilizers as well as Aluminum manufacturing, Sodium Fluoride....this alone, the Soviet Gulags as had the Nazi Concentration camps, have well documented the docile & apathetic affects upon the human brain. Masters are making a FORTUNE with YOUR Birth Certificate on NYSE! ~Azad Jace

Marlise @ 12/12/2012 7:50 AM

Obviously the last several comments were from 'sovereigns'. To those engaged in legally protecting our citizens and enforcing the laws often at great personal risk, I want to say "Thank you" from the heart.. to our policemen, firemen, and military, "God bless you and keep you safe"
I found the article very interesting. I looked it up after a news article described such a person- I know there are nutty people out there, but the degree of selfishness exhibited by these is unreal. They want to live here and benefit from life in the US, but not contribute to it.

kory flowers @ 12/14/2012 6:04 AM

Thanks for all the positive, clearly-thought out and articulate comments from our fellow safe out there. -kf

Yahoshua @ 12/31/2012 4:35 PM mean in 50 years they couldnt find one example of just some good ol people who thought the british takeover which was backed by big money and the queen was bullshit and believe its easier to not lie cheat steal in a common (sense)law fashion. Nobody huh....every example is derrogatory against "soverigns".....if somebody is willing to battle the police to death in a shootout...soverign or not dont matter....those crazy bastards woulda did it anyway. Your article may fit well for mind numbed robots incapable of thought due to overwhelming amounts of flouride, and processed foods...yet you can easily see the negative use of carefully placed words. My favorite part is where "Soverigns dont believe govt has power to issue license...etc..."unlike" "average" "american citizens" who have "accepted" these things as the "role" of the government.

Joe Rath @ 1/2/2013 11:20 AM

One thing that stands out is that the officer is too exposed to the driver of the vehicle.
Hand on t

Aikido John @ 1/3/2013 6:19 AM

Yes, but they still bleed just like regular citizens. They are not immune to a .40 caliber bullet...

Andrew D @ 1/9/2013 6:47 AM

I really hope police officers are immune to this rhetoric propaganda. May the force be with us - those who are close to the source field - against tyranny - pro freedom - anti war and hate.

Robert Baty @ 1/10/2013 3:34 PM

I struck up a conversation in the last few days with a fellow using the name of Ed Umpervitch; via the FaceBook page of Kent Hovind.

Ed has tried to make a big deal out of whether or not a person is "private" or "public"; coming across as being a "sovereign" promoter.

Kent Hovind, currently serving a 10 year sentence for tax related crimes, has in days gone by tried to use sovereign antics in his efforts to thwart enforcement efforts against him.

I don't know how far Ed might carry the discussion. I am having a little trouble getting him to really "come out" and "come clean" about what he is getting at.

Kent's FaceBook address is:

Ter ber @ 1/22/2013 5:19 PM

These people are just that...people. They are afraid for their country becoming a state in the world govt. coming. Our police officers need to look up the dangers of agenda 21. Otherwise you will be taking your orders from the UN.

Bob Samson @ 1/30/2013 7:45 PM

Wow, a lot of you really are part of building the police state. This is disgusting; you should know that stop and searches are against the constitution and people's natural rights. Not to mention you bullies that try to search without warrants and intimidate people with the threat of violence. Lastly, there are no laws that require the regular working American to submit a 1040 - the IRS refuses to point out what law requires it. My earnings as a human being are not subject to direct taxation. That's theft. YOU and big brother make lists. WE make lists of all traitors to humanity and liberty. The day is coming... choose your side wisely and stop serving fraud and theft.

Tony @ 2/1/2013 2:01 PM

What are the codes referring to the legality of taxation. And if they aren't legitimate how does one, deal with the issue and avoid going to jail.

Anon @ 2/7/2013 9:23 AM

Internal Revenue Code
Sections 1, 61, and 63 impose the tax,
Section 6012 requires you to file a tax return if you have income of more than the exemption amount plus the basic standard deduction, and
Section 6151 requires you to pay the tax at the time and place fixed for the filing of your return.

Anon @ 2/7/2013 9:24 AM

I know... I know... don't feed the trolls. But it was only a LITTLE feeding.

Glenn @ 2/15/2013 12:09 PM

Sorry, I need to correct something here that is being missed. Judge Tolen of the US Supreme Court has given his decision on the difference between comerical and private travels. Most if not all officers are in violation of the law. Remember, Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I am asking you to do your homework. Verify what I am telling you and see how you have been used and abused in your positions. Most Sovereign citizens are tired of trying to educate the cops on this issue, some understand that even if they do issue a citation. It will still remain up to the cop to prove in court that at the time of the citation the road was being used for comerical purposes by the driver, operator, etc. I am sorry, I am in no way condoning, promoting what the Sovereigns do. But cops also need a bit of accountablity. They also need to understand that they have limited powers. And that they need to be more responcable in thier action. Please look up the info, see where a lot of people are comming from. And see why a lot of them get angry. See that they actually do have standing in court because it has already been decided by the supreme court that the law applies to comerical and not private. Please relaize that someone headed home or to work is not using the roadways for profit, and that is for the private use since afterall he or she is not making money off the roadway itself. Please understand that there is a difference of who the law applies to and what law applies to whom. That is all I am asking.

nate trezza @ 2/15/2013 3:56 PM

the supreme court has ruled that a right cannot be changed into a privelage then into a crime

Ervin @ 3/3/2013 11:47 AM

Most claim to be US Citizens and further state that agents of the government at not citizens due to the oath of office which binds them to the United Nations.

Scott @ 3/9/2013 12:09 AM


Members of the U.S. Supreme Court are referred to as justices, not judges.

Having said that, there is not and never has been any U.S. Supreme Court justice named Tolen.

You get an F as in epic fail.

bruce @ 3/9/2013 5:50 PM

of course it's plain to see that people like yous need a few more lesson's on how to deal with government property, and this is why people like yourselves are in this situation,that you's are in?
stop bleating like sheep' this you are not, so cut it out.
2. When you realize this is whats is happening,then this first lesson will be concluded.
3.That you's are no different,but classed as inferior sheep, because your government who is also a sheep is actually an agent for the wolf,
4.And if you's all believe that this is so, then please inform others that pleasure before pain, is anal(ain't) bad as it makes out to be,with the exception of a few bleats here and there .
Shank's for nothing.

Becca @ 3/18/2013 5:17 PM

What if police officers enforced safety instead of fines. Instead of a sheriff kicking people out of their homes, they argued on their behalf for them to stay in their homes, and use necessary force to not let anyone remove them. What if sheriffs were able to enforce the "constitutional right" to housing, and put homeless people in vacant homes and protect them from eviction. What if police officers didn't give out tickets for violations, but made sure no one is fined unless value has been stolen or damaged on purpose by someone else.. What if law enforcement made sure that unreasonable fees were never issued to anyone, so that people welcome police instead of run.. From what I've learned about society, is that officers are here to have compassion and protect people from injustice, not to enforce socially accepted behavior. Many dangerous people are taken off the streets by officers;speeding drivers, DUIs,and violent outbursts. Good thing.To be more effective, police could take a stance for civilians and be our enforcers for justice instead of enforcers of fines and inhumane policies.

Darren @ 4/7/2013 10:09 PM

We do have our rights. Alot of it has been forgotten and needs to be brought to public again. Just research on where our taxes goes. We actually pay to use the roads. So why are we paying the extra money for people to bring more laws instead of paying for people to protect our rights that has been forgotten and twisted with the laws we have today? Its not right at all.

steven @ 4/9/2013 9:25 AM

Why is registrations insurance and license all state laws when U.S. Constitution says we have the inalienable right to travel and U.S. Supreme courts have upheld that. We according to both do not need any of the above when states or federal goverment has no right to inalienate our right to be on public roadways/highways for the purposes other than commerce. Period.

steven @ 4/9/2013 9:32 AM

And i am not a sovereign citizen, im a citizen of the United States, and i no longer drive with any form of tag not a lawful nor unlawful tag. I do not carry any insurance on my vehicle and although i have a valid drivers license i do not carry it, i do cooperate with officers of the law, and i do provide legal identification when so required when needed and does not violate my rights. I do not consent to searches without reasonable cause, reasonable suspicion alone does not warrant a search.

Dawn @ 4/14/2013 12:43 AM

What happens if you have gotten in trouble with the law and when you go to court to be tried you tell the judge your sovereign?

Raymond @ 5/11/2013 11:26 AM

There is so much sadness and ignorance here. 1st we have an article that has to be the most pathetic piece of propaganda I have ever read. Then we have officers who in fact take an oath to uphold the Constitution, but I would wager that none of them have even read it. Then they turn against the people that they swore they would protect. Then mockingly label them "sovereign" as if they themselves are not sovereign. We are all sovereign and we were made that way by God himself. Are we so blind? How far have we fallen from the Republic that was formed to escape tyranny? Please officers, read the Constitution after all you DID swear an oath and if you don't remember swearing it or you don't take it seriously, please turn in your badge today. You are not bill collectors, you are peace officers entrusted by the people with limited delegated authority to perform certain duties. AND PLEASE REMEMBER, you swore no oath to uphold statutes and codes and certainly did not swear to hold statutes and codes above the Constitution. If you did, you are a traitor. If you violate your oath which you all do daily, you are a traitor. IT IS YOOOOUUUUR OATH - UNDERSTAND IT! By the way, those who say "God bless you" and violate your oath are hypocrites. If you are a believer and an officer, you will soon discover that you are employed by the Beast of Revelation, but that doesn't mean you have to violate your oath to do your job...then again maybe it does....

Raymond @ 5/12/2013 9:46 AM

There is so much sadness and ignorance here. 1st we have an article that has to be the most pathetic piece of propaganda I have ever read. Then we have officers who in fact take an oath to uphold the Constitution, but I would wager that none of them have even read it. Then they turn against the people that they swore they would protect. Then mockingly label them "sovereign" as if they themselves are not sovereign. We are all sovereign and we were made that way by God himself. Are we so blind? How far have we fallen from the Republic that was formed to escape tyranny? Please officers, read the Constitution after all you DID swear an oath and if you don't remember swearing it or you don't take it seriously, please turn in your badge today. You are not bill collectors, you are peace officers entrusted by the people with limited delegated authority to perform certain duties. AND PLEASE REMEMBER, you swore no oath to uphold statutes and codes and certainly did not swear to hold statutes and codes above the Constitution. If you did, you are a traitor. If you violate your oath which you all do daily, you are a traitor. IT IS YOOOOUUUUR OATH - UNDERSTAND IT! By the way, those who say "God bless you" and violate your oath are hypocrites. If you are a believer and an officer, you will soon discover that you are employed by the Beast of Revelation, but that doesn't mean you have to violate your oath to do your job...then again maybe it does....

National Grand Sheik Jela @ 6/1/2013 2:10 AM

The Moorish American leaders have attempted to contact Fowler and Finch to invite them to a debate if you will to prove that we of the Moorish Holy Temple of Science of the World, Free and Sundry Moorish Science Temple of America are anti-government or breakers of the law of the land which is the delegating authority to your existence. Your irresponsible actions of propaganda has cause police officers to look at those of our Theocracy and Religious Corporation as hostiles, This brings about a covert version of genocide. Making us disobey the laws of our God and Prophet. We are not sovereign citizens because our God and Prophet are the sovereigns and we are their subjects. Stop slandering our Prophet and religion. My Prophet can't be a separatist when the Moorish Orthodox Church exists who do not have a dark olive complexion. They are Celts and Persians and at a glance look to be white. Stop the lies or set up a conference in the public and prove that our Religion is anti-government. We await the time and the place. You work for a municipality that is attacking a religious society that has been in existence for 100 years, decades before some Posse Comititus (respectfully). We have nothing to do with that ideology and those making those statements that they are Moorish American and cannot quote our Moorish Customary Law, although they may belong to one of many Moorish Tribes, they are not Moorish Americans. Again, we come in Love Truth Peace Freedom and Justice and have never caused any law enforcement any harm. It is not a part of our doctrine and well rooted in the legislature of the U.S. government, operating in accordance with the laws and legislature of the 50 states. Meet us in a public forum or stop the slander respectfully.

Michael @ 6/13/2013 8:09 AM

Sure are a lot of nuts out there. Some of them have gotten in here. I guess they read POLICE Magazine for intelligence purposes. Their comments, however, display a lack of the same in its broader sense.

Travis Peterson @ 8/14/2013 11:00 PM

Yes i am a man created by god in gods image and i was born free "on the land"! I love my nation! Im proud to be called an american! I respect "ALL" men until given reason not to. I live by MY morals of not infringing upon your rights to life,liberty,proerty and the pursuit of happiness!
I require you to not infring upon mine as a man.
But as any government official i require you to respect your oath and stand up against those who dont!
Just about all of the stuff the sovereigns do is very minor and clearly and supported by the supreme courts except when the irs is involved! Now im not saying some dont go to far but would they of had the chance to take it that far in the first place if you had honored your oath and protected their rights as a "peace officer"?
So think about that the next time you and 12 of your brother shoot some man that cant afford to put a $120 plate on his car and knows he is not required to!
Learn to think as a man and do some research before you go protecting some government officals interest that is stealing 100s of thousands if not millions from who you swor to protect just because you they told you this is what the "law"states and gave you an order!
The law makers dont even read the laws that they make. Laws do you really think they know what they say?
UCC is the proof that so many laws have been made that anyone can prove the law says this or that to support the point of view they want it to. It only comes down to who has more time and or resources to prove their point and when the lazy officials get beat at their own game they order you to enforce their point with force! And you call yourself a man! To scared to stand up because you might loose that 35 to 45k a year job and might have to make your own plate some day!
Now prove me wrong because the judges and pd around me cant do it without use of force!

John @ 8/23/2013 1:59 PM

I can't believe I took time to read most of these moronic notes from those who believe a civilized c

Mohammud Butt @ 8/23/2013 4:14 PM

Be aware that some militant Islamic groups are also investigating and experimenting with calling the

Jho79 @ 8/23/2013 6:06 PM

Surprise, surprise...ANOTHER article about Sovereign Citizens without ANY clear advice for how an of

Anth0ny @ 8/26/2013 7:41 AM

I noticed a common tread among most of the remarks made by those with a "Sovereign" mentality; they

Richard Hightower @ 8/26/2013 9:09 AM

Seems like the most peaceful and lawful way to interact with persons who subscribe to these concepts

A Deputy @ 8/26/2013 10:55 AM

WOW!! Had no idea there were these many nut jobs out there reading our police magazine! We need to

tom @ 1/21/2014 7:23 PM

Your article is based on unsubstantiated bullshit and no facts what so ever.. I can show you over 20 supreme court cases that state driving is a right not a privilege and I can show you in the law where DMV statutes only apply to commercial vehicles driving in a commercial capacity..get your facts straight

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:30 PM

" the revolution the Sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects ......and have none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty." Chisholm v Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, at pg 471;

"The words "people of the United States" and "citizens" are synonymous terms, and mean the same thing. They both describe the political body who, according to our republican institutions, form the sovereignty, and who hold the power and conduct the Government through their representatives. They are what we familiarly call the "sovereign people," and every citizen is one of this people, and a constituent member of the sovereignty." Dredd Scott v Sandford, 60 US 393, at pg 404;

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:30 PM

"People of a state are entitled to all rights, which formerly belong to the King by his prerogative." Lansing v Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9,20 (NY).

"The people or sovereign are not bound by general word in statutes, restrictive of prerogative right, title or interest, unless expressly named. Acts of limitation do not bind the King or the people. The people have been ceded all the rights of the King, the former sovereign,.....It is a maxim of the common law, that when an act is made for the common good and to prevent injury, the King shall be bound, though not named, but when a statute is general and prerogative right would be divested or taken from the King (or the people) he shall not be bound." People v Herkimer, 4 Cowen (NY) 345, 348 (1825)

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:31 PM

"It will be admitted on all hands that with the exception of the powers granted to the states and the federal government, through the Constitutions, the people of the several states are unconditionally sovereign within their respective states." Ohio L. Ins. & T. Co. v. Debolt, 16 How. 416, 14 L.Ed. 997.

"Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; ….." Yick Wo v Hopkins, 118 US 356, at pg 370;

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:32 PM

Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them.
Penhallow v. Doane's Administraters 3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54, (1795)

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:32 PM

"…., while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts." Yick Wo v Hopkins, 118 US 356, at pg 370;

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:33 PM

Color of Law

"Color" means "An appearance, semblance, or simulacrum, as distinguished from that which is real. A prima facia or apparent right. Hence, a deceptive appearance, a plausible, assumed exterior, concealing a lack of reality; a disguise or pretext. See also colorable." Black's Law Dictionary, 5th Edition, on page 240.

"Colorable" means "That which is in appearance only, and not in reality, what it purports to be, hence counterfeit feigned, having the appearance of truth." Windle v. Flinn, 196 Or. 654, 251 P.2d 136, 146.

"Color of Law" means "The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of legal right. Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with authority of state is action taken under 'color of law.'" Atkins v. Lanning. D.C.Okl., 415 F. Supp. 186, 188.

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:33 PM

If something is "color of law" then it is NOT law, it only looks like law. If you go to the website for the Office of Law Revision Counsel, you will see that most of the titles of the United States Code are "prima facia evidence of the laws of the United States".

"prima facia" means "At first sight; on the first appearance; on the face of it; so far as can be judged from the first disclosure; presumably; a fact presumed to be true unless disproved by some evidence to the contrary." State ex rel. Herbert v. Whims, 68 Ohio App. 39, 38 N.E.2d 596, 599, 22 O.O. 110. Black's Law Dictionary 5th Edition page 1071.

Prima facia and color of law both go hand in hand, because if a law is prima facia evidence of the laws of the United States, that means it is color of law, by definition. In other words the bureaucrat presumes that the law applies to you until you defeat their presumption.

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:34 PM

If you read these prima facia, color of law statutes, you will find them using words like "person". I will use the color of law Title 26 USC as a typical way that they do it.

26 USC 7701 (a) (1) Person. The term “person” shall be construed to mean and include an individual, a trust, estate, partnership, association, company or corporation.

In the Internal Revenue code they say that a "person" has to pay taxes and obey their filing requirement etc., and most people think that they are such a "person", so they do it, but there is a maxim of law that says something else.

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:34 PM

Ejusdem Generis (eh-youse-dem generous) v adj. Latin for "of the same kind," used to interpret loosely written statutes. Where a law lists specific classes of persons or things and then refers to them in general, the general statements only apply to the same kind of persons or things specifically listed. Example: if a law refers to automobiles, trucks, tractors, motorcycles and other motor-powered vehicles, "vehicles" would not include airplanes, since the list was of land-based transportation.

Pursuant to the Maxim of Law ejusdem generis the word "individual" is another type of fictitious entity because the rest of the entities are fictitious entities and in the rules of statutory construction, a definition must contain the same type of entities, or it is void for vagueness. Therefore, an “individual” and a "person" are different names for a corporation.

Title 15 USC Section 44 even provides for an "unincorporated corporation".

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:35 PM

When you do what a color of law statute says, you are deemed to have agreed to the terms of the contract, and ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

This is consistent with what the Courts are saying, a "Person" is:
a) “a variety of entities other than human beings.” Church of Scientology v U.S. Department of Justice, 612 F2d 417 (1979) at pg 418
b) ”...foreigners, not citizens...." United States v Otherson, 480 F. Supp. 1369 (1979) at pg 1373.
c) the words "person" and "whoever" include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies...Title 1 U.S.C. Chapter 1 – Rules of Construction, Section 1

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:35 PM

A sovereign is not a "person" in a legal sense and as far as a statute is concerned;
a) " 'in common usage, the term 'person' does not include the sovereign, [and] statutes employing the [word] are normally construed to exclude it.' Wilson v Omaha Tribe, 442 US653 667, 61 L Ed 2d 153, 99 S Ct 2529 (1979) (quoting United States v Cooper Corp. 312 US 600, 604, 85 L Ed 1071, 61 S Ct 742 (1941). See also United States v Mine Workers, 330 US 258, 275, 91 L Ed 884, 67 S Ct 677 (1947)" Will v Michigan State Police, 491 US 58, 105 L. Ed. 2d 45, 109 S.Ct. 2304
b) “a sovereign is not a person in a legal sense” In re Fox, 52 N. Y. 535, 11 Am. Rep. 751; U.S. v. Fox, 94 U.S. 315, 24 L. Ed. 192

All of this is consistent with the Fourteenth Amendment because the Fourteenth Amendment talks about a "person" being a US citizen, and both of them are corporations.

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:35 PM

Other terminologies which mean the same thing are "pretend legislation" and then it would also follow that offenses under "pretend legislation" would also be "pretend offenses". These terminologies are found in the Declaration of Independence(1776).

For any statute to be legimate, there are certain requirements. For example, it has to have a preamble, it has to be approved by both the House of Representatives and the Senate, and signed by the President, and there are other requirements as well. The lack of any of these would make it color of law. Remember, "color of law" means it does NOT have authority, therefore, you have to agree with it, - it is a contract. That is why it is "prima facia", which means it is "at first look". In other words, at first look the courts presume that the statute affects you but if you can show that you didn't agree to it in some way, then you are free to go.

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:36 PM

Because the US Congress perjurers did their Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act, and also because state citizens are foreign to the United States, most people think that they have to go through a lot to prove that they did not agree to one of these so-called contracts, but the opposite is true.

Color of Law, and Prima Facia, and presumption are all associated with Admiralty Maritime Law courts.

Still don't believe that the courts view these colorable codes, rules and regulations as a contract?

"The rights of the individuals are restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government."
City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:43 PM

Just in case you care to see how this all started....

Paul Revere @ 1/22/2014 1:55 PM

To understand the significance of the style of a name (be it a man, Person, Corporation, or a Country) and the capitalization of a word (typically in Legalese which appears, to the uninformed, to be the English language) look up the definition of Capitis deminutio ( & capitonym.

Kevin Powell @ 1/29/2014 5:01 AM

After reading through this well written and absolutely biased article it is a shame that the world is controlled by criminals. In an address to the Annual Dinner for White House Correspondents' Association, Washington, D.C. (15 March 1941) Franklin Roosevelt made this statement ‘Nazi forces are not seeking mere modifications in colonial maps or in minor European boundaries. They openly seek the destruction of all elective systems of government on every continent-including our own; they seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers who have seized power by force. These men and their hypnotized followers call this a new order. It is not new. It is not order.’
The problems are many in today society, but it is the lack of proper education and moral conviction that allows the process of instigating statute laws to control people. IF the government were doing the best for people, it would not impose laws,

Kevin Powell @ 1/29/2014 5:01 AM

it would TEACH people better to fully understand right from wrong, but unfortunately Governments keep control because of the ‘FEAR’ they implant in peoples minds, so that they can act as the protector of the people. Open your eyes people, listen to the ‘Conspiracy theories’ and look at many of the people who are making claims. Do they look like the average thug, gangster or murderer... NO they are in most cases very intelligent people who are trying to do the morally correct action of helping his/her fellow man.

Kevin Powell @ 1/29/2014 5:01 AM

Everything has now been modified to the point where it is now worthless, if you read the original ‘Hippocratic Oath’ that doctors used to swear to has been alter in Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, and one line has change the entire concept of medicine. This line’ I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.’ Means that doctor are no longer trying to cure disease, but treat before you have a disease and use the idea of fear that if someone does not take their medicines they might get the disease!!!! This is WRONG, there is no proof that these medicines work, the death rates have increased by the intervention of medical staff and is called ‘Iatrogenic causes’ it has been summarised as now being the leading cause of deaths in the USA and what has been done about it... nothing, so before you make any judgements on the FREEMEN OF THE LAND who are in most cases educated and thoughtful people who are trying to help reduce corruption and

Kevin Powell @ 1/29/2014 5:02 AM

use the idea of fear that if someone does not take their medicines they might get the disease!!!! This is WRONG, there is no proof that these medicines work, the death rates have increased by the intervention of medical staff and is called ‘Iatrogenic causes’ it has been summarised as now being the leading cause of deaths in the USA and what has been done about it... nothing, so before you make any judgements on the FREEMEN OF THE LAND who are in most cases educated and thoughtful people who are trying to help reduce corruption and educate people as to how the corrupt systems work.

Shirley @ 2/7/2014 4:06 PM

Karen Hudes is a World Bank Whistle Blower who reported corruption to every agency in the UNITED STATES CORPORATION INC and it got her know where
till she united with other whistle blowers and started to follow the money.
Together they are cleaning up what the Vatican and Jesuits have done to
the people of this earth. Watch her latest interview on youtube. Also Santos Bonacci has documented history of the world which will help many to understand how so many few hold so much power over the people.

One for thought @ 2/8/2014 12:45 PM

Officers in my state don't even know Minnesota statue 358.05 witch requires then to take a oath of office and they don't even recognize this statue and when you question them they treat you like shot for calling them out.... Police of today remind of the Jew police during ww2 they oppressed they own peoples rights for certain privileges.... That you police officer for fallowing laws only witch you choose, I proved in front of the city council that certain officers don't have a timely filed oath of office that means they did not have the peoples trust...... You guys are pretty fucking lame

Azad Jace @ 4/15/2014 12:37 PM

Yes, of course "Sovereign Citizens" have to be the latest Boogey-Man under the bed ready to strike at any time!! This, as well as the Parrot's Call(s) crying out in Mindless Robot fashion, since nobody has taken the time to Read [NOR Comprehend] the [PRIVATE] Constitution of The United States, made in Fraudulent Legerdemain in 1871 after ten years (10), almost to the day, of today's Anniversary that Martial Law was instituted by Abraham Lincoln "Springer" Springstein, as well as the countless Subsidiary Franchise Corporations, Agencies, and Support Structures made since (as Reconstruction Acts, also). What of the "Supreme Court" and each "Judge/Official/Poli'tician since: simple...they are but IGNORANT of their own Place within and upon the [PRIVATE] Roman Hierarchy and blind devotion(s) as absolute arrogance to refrain from conducting Due Diligence to under'stand they are [unwitting] participants to Fraud upon the [PRIVATE] Crown Temple and its Affiliated Brother'Hood(s)' Roman Chain.

and The Raiders... @ 5/13/2014 5:31 PM

While the authors have made some good points about protecting themselves and others against certain RADICAL factions in the Sovereignty movement, but I can't disagree more with many of the statements made by the authors concerning the motivations and mindset of the HUGE MAJORITY of Sovereigns. We actually accept that laws must exist and be obeyed, no matter whether the root is Constitutional or the root of the law is Commercial. The former refers to Common Law, and concerns a REAL FLESH AND BLOOD MAN OR WOMAN, and the latter refers to THE CORPORATE ENTITY that has been created for (against) each one of us by a mechanism that was largely set up in 1933 during the Bankruptcy proceedings of the united States Government. Sorry Rob and Kory... that mechanism REALLY DOES EXIST (else you couldn't file UCC papers ), and the bonds that represent our lives as slaves are sold on the open market. I just want control of my Corporate Self, so no one else CAN have it! LEGITIMATE government is good.

OhToBeFree @ 5/16/2014 5:25 PM

Completely bias, propaganda article. Let me say this now, I am not a "Sovereign Citizen" (which by the way is an oxymoron, Sovereigns are not citizens by the definition of law) I am an American and Yes I believe in the United States of America and our Constitution.

If you believe you cannot travel without a drivers license then to do searching online and you will find a number of court cases dismissed and beaten, where people were cited for driving without registration and drivers license. I do not disagree that Police officers should use caution when approaching an unknown and unreadable situation, we should ALL be protecting ourselves and our rights. Not all everyone using common law or proclaiming themselves as Sovereign Citizens are dangerous, no more than other legitimate and recognized extremest organizations within the United States of America. It's a few bad apples, you wouldn't say all police are bad despite the many recent, publicly known, abuse cases coming to light.

George Carlin @ 6/1/2014 11:26 PM

I have not filed my tax forms yet that truly do exist within the legal system to become a sovereign. However, I have to make a few Justly due comments here in respect to this article and many comments. Lets just get right down to the FACTS! It is True that the Birth Certificate is a legal contract. Look it up and do your own research. 2ndly, If anyone is really enters into any contract, they must fully understand and sign off on that "CONTRACT"! IF... you really know the law, then you will see, YOU NEVER SIGNED THE CONTRACT, SO THEREFORE IT IS IN-TURN A DEFACTO CONTRACT! I could go on and on about this and tell you the crimes of these slavery contracts that are based on lies to enslave you, but you must research it for yourself. I can only show you the door, its your choice to walk through the door of truth. Ask yourself what is zionism and maybe then if you dig a little, you will start to see.

theo barber @ 6/16/2014 1:40 PM

I have just been considered a terrorist because I told the cop he will talk and act like I am a United states citizen he accused me of being a more and my message was received like the las vegas tragedy
The government does not want me to succeed because of my heritage the cop told me if u stop talking about the amendments I wont give u a ticket hr said he was scared of me I have no felonies or assault or violent crime ive been in America all my life how am I consider a terrorist so I have been accused of treason

james pansini @ 7/4/2014 1:21 AM

Whoever wrote this article had only one agenda. To create an immediate fear for both law officers and its citizens creating fear on both parties which can easily lead to violence and eventually lethal force by the law enforcement officer since he is always the one with the gun. I hope your happy.

Stop Perverting Authority @ 7/7/2014 7:26 AM

The sheer ignorance (in the strictest sense of the word) of the average police officer is staggering, and the blatant disrespect they exhibit for "citizens" (which the monsters always forget they are; before whatever they think they are, they are first, foremost, and always will be a citizen) and true freedom and unabused authority towers over it. If Policemag doesn't tolerate antisocial behavior, then why are cops, statistically, one of the largest groups of sociopaths in our country?

brian @ 7/7/2014 4:19 PM

under common law if no damage has been done or there is no theft.there is no crime.therefore there is no reason to be stopped.the federal government only has jurisdiction on commercial use of public roadways.the public roadways are payed for by the public through gas taxes.they belong to the public.driver definition has a definition as use for personal gain.the term driver has been blurred through the color of law to include travelers.look up the definition of a driver.

brian @ 7/8/2014 8:07 AM

Cmon Man @ 7/25/2014 2:17 PM

This article is just pure propaganda....

Here is the real law affirmed as late as 2010...

oath taker of revenue cri @ 7/27/2014 10:00 PM

You cops are pathetic. Your spew proves all I have read and experienced from you. I am a sovereign living soul. I am self governing and do not need to have my hand held by an incompetent attorney foreign agent. My question is: Why did you follow and harrass those folks to begin with? Because if you didnt you couldnt get a paycheck of fiat military script dollars.
I am much like your worst enemies charlie sprinkle,ralph evans(not to be confused with the negro jew with dreams) Glenn Fearn, Ronald Avery, and so on. Any one of you who want to lose your oath, come harrass me. pull me over as I travel. If you think I can not prove I am from Texas and not from the USA you are kidding yourself. You know you can not govern yourself. That is why you are a paid assassin for attorney foreign agents. You fellas can not make an honest life for yourself. Your job is proof of it. You have to force your cross dressing bosses political will on others because it helps you be governed. Derilict cops.

oath taker of revenue cri @ 7/27/2014 10:02 PM

Any of you cops mess with me while travelling, I will sue you and get your oath. Plain and simple

Anthony @ 7/31/2014 10:24 PM

what a way to turn your American brother against you, by making them out to be terrorists, good grief the liscence doesn't make any better or worse of a driver, what propaganda, makes me sick. instead of the motto to serve and protect, its to punish and enslave!

Damon Schneider @ 8/3/2014 3:22 AM

The correction to the problem of government usurping the rights of Citizens and States is for all Citizens to realize that the Federal government was never intended to have jurisdiction over or influence upon individual Citizens. Its purposes are to serve the States as enumerated in Article 1, Section 8, clauses 1-18 of the Constitution for the united States.

We all need to realize that governments of all stripes will grab hold of as much power as they can by whatever means they can and that includes the Leviathan in Washington, D.C.

We need to realize that the government in Washington is actually two government in one: First, it is the Federal government of the States united, bound by the yoke and limitations of the Constitution and, second, it is the municipal government for the District of Columbia and all possessions and territories of the United States such as Puerto Rico, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and US military installations, etc. where such constitutional restrictio

Damon Schneider @ 8/3/2014 3:23 AM

and US military installations, etc. where such constitutional restrictions do not apply and where the municipal government has the legislative authority to do as it pleases (Article 1, Section 8, clause 17 US Constitution).

We need to realize that the majority of legislators are lawyers practiced in the art of word-smithing (saying one thing while deliberately meaning or implying another).

We need to realize that the majority or laws passed in Washington are municipal laws and do not apply to the Citizens of the States united.

We need to realize that the majority of the laws passed in Washington are written in such a way as to deceive us Citizens into believing that they do apply to us.

We need to realize that such deceptive laws use customized language - words which mimic words we use every day but words which, within the law, have very different meanings from the commonly understood meaning. For example, the Title that establishes the Department of Education (for the

Damon Schneider @ 8/3/2014 3:23 AM

United States) has within it a section called "definitions". Within that section it says, when used in this Title, the term "United States" means Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands. It does NOT mean the States united that we usually think of as the United States. Thus, we are deceived into believing that the Department of Education has some legal authority over our private sector schools and school systems when, in fact, they do not and can not except by our quiet acquiescence to the deception. It is by such deceptions that the power of the people and the States is eroded and usurped. It is by such deceptions that the Leviathan becomes ever larger and more intrusive.

So, what is the real solution? For every piece of legislation passed into law ask the question "to whom does this legislation apply or pertain?" If it pertains to individual citizens then ask, "by what authority or provision enumerated in the Constitution do you enact this law?"


Damon Schneider @ 8/3/2014 3:25 AM

So, what is the real solution? For every piece of legislation passed into law ask the question "to whom does this legislation apply or pertain?" If it pertains to individual citizens then ask, "by what authority or provision enumerated in the Constitution do you enact this law?"

Remember, the high court has declared that if a law is repugnant to the Constitution, it is not and cannot be a law imposed upon the Citizenry, it can only be municipal law which has no affect upon Citizens of the States united.

“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” – Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 463

“An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.” – Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425

“The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any

Damon Schneider @ 8/3/2014 3:25 AM

Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.” – Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137

You don't have to be a lawyer to figure this out or to correct the problem. You simply have to ask the right questions.

Known as Aaron @ 8/11/2014 11:58 AM



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Desi @ 8/12/2014 5:46 PM

Hummmm.....Oh wow....I hope my fellow Americans have not submitted to the Beast that devour nations. I myself learned the scary truth about the government that the sheeply support. I have also backed up my research and claims with codes such as the U.C.C and U.S Code; HJR 192 of 1933 that taken all the wealth from the people and given them slave money backed up on the sweat and labor of the American people. Look at blacks laws to discover their hidden language in admiralty/maritime. I this country is 17 trillion dollars in debt and still climbing: use your freaking brains sheeply people. Do you think that is money that you are spending? Have you heard of a national debt? Have you heard of the organic constitution for the united states of America and the corporate chartered one call the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA? Have you wondered why every crime is commercial? Have you been charged?

Desi @ 8/12/2014 6:13 PM

Do you know that if a group of investors wanted to get together and start a business they would apply for a corporate charter and this charter is called a person spelled in all caps just like your given name and family name? Have you ever read in depth court papers that will tell you when it states the person above is taking you to court and it turns out to be a business; and then say to yourself that you though you were a person? how can a business have the same rights as a human-being? Have you ever wondered why government agents always as for our fist and last name? They want your family name and given name? DUH Learn to ask questions and get answers. Stop being good little slaves and WAKE UP...... REMEMBER THIS everything you sign is a maritime contract enforced in an admiralty/military tribunal/jurisdiction for performance. You have the right to assert your unalienable rights at anytime. Do not let these traitors to the people tell you the rights that they are going to give you.

Desi @ 8/12/2014 6:22 PM

He who creates control the created. ens-legis identity= id entity
corporation= corps=dead. birth certificate is a government created document, social security is the mark of the beast. with out them no one will be able to buy, sale or trade without taking the beasts mark. think about it you cannot do anything commercial without this identity and number. Why you think God is being slowly phased out of Americans lives. I live on a geographical state and not in it...think about that one. I am an American Citizen and not a UNITED STATES citizen....look at the spelling of them too...WAKE UP GET EDUCATED OF THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE. OR BE SLAVES TO THE DEVIL.

oddthomas @ 9/23/2014 7:46 AM

Unfortunately most of the people involved in the sovereign citizen movement are the tinfoil at types but to discount what they say completely is, simply put, ignorance. Meaning that out of fear or hatred most people ignore the underlying principles of the movement.

Essentially the SC are constitutionalists and individualist in a society run by collectivist and solipsists. Why do you think there is such a violent push against their idiology? The SC believe in Natural law from which man has derived all of his laws. Certain laws of man are in direct conflict with Natural Law and as such we as humans are not obligated to follow unjust those laws.

I say we need more of the SC movement to help us in the united states to find a balance between the obvious corporate interests and the interests of the individual. The first thing we should do is get rid of these: Central Bank, Nanny state and big government. Then we need to demonetize our political and educational systems.

Sam @ 9/26/2014 3:38 PM

We must remember that this country was consecrated to God not to man. The laws made by man always become oppressive the laws of God were supposed to maintain civility. Man has made his own laws that override the laws of God in a country that was established for Gods purpose and his people. Jesus was sacrificed for this reason and why he asked Our Heavenly Father that we be forgiven for we know not what we do. We tend to find ways to punish the innocent and poor. During a traffic stop one's property may never return once taken against their will, totally ignoring thou shalt not steal. Remember you police officers you swore by oath or affirmation to protect the people and their property to ensure the blessing of a republic. Although its rarely mentioned, we are a republic first, not a democracy. Ensuring a republic gave full authority to the people not the govt. All we had to live by is 'love thy neighbor as you love yourself' through that simple concept the laws of God remain in tact

truth and knowledge @ 10/9/2014 12:34 AM

If you are a police officer or and other servant you are still a public servant and you need to know this before you serve satan your master

truthandknowledge @ 10/9/2014 12:35 AM

I donot consent to any of the maritime law here so the awaken has begun and what side of history will you stand on. The side of the people or the side of Satan you have a decision to make

Sovereign @ 10/17/2014 12:49 PM

Sad that this article takes TRUTH an distort it as to make those of us who are sovereign to be dangerous but people we are of peace not violence they lie but stand on truth and you always win for the non believers I say check out all they say here thats not real ans see for yourself you will be amazed HJR192 june 5th 1933 America became bankrupt check it out and see that all they twist is true.

Sovereign supporter @ 10/21/2014 3:46 PM

This hopeful Supporter of the Sovereigns says:

"FBI HRT sniper Lon Horiuchi was indicted for manslaughter in 1997 by Boundary Co., Idaho, prosecutor just the statute of limitations for the crime of manslaughter expired, but the trial was removed to federal court and quickly dismissed on grounds of sovereign immunity."- Ruby Ridge Standoff. Things that make you go hmmm... This guy was an FBI HRT Sniper in case anyone missed it. Strange how he was a federal agent. Cop a sovereign? Someone commented they use tactics like filings and documents and believe this and believe that and to take extreme caution blah blah blah. Did it ever occur to you that they are just handling things the way the Government does? Don't be mad because they might make you feel the way you make the rest of america feel. God says to obey the laws of the land... Not man's law. God's law...

LDV @ 10/22/2014 12:17 PM

Just a simple citizen, veteran in combat of a war, father, provider and a Christian. You know, after reading the above I have decided to study the law in my old age. I'm different... Until the law is applied equally to Illegal aliens, police, judges and corrupt politicians (Harry, Bush, Nancy etc.) I will no longer participate (much less hand over my license, proof of insurance and regestration).

Eric @ 10/24/2014 11:16 AM

I laugh that law enforcement views that being an American National (a.k.a. Sovereign Citizen) is something to look out for and show concern. Let's definitely view all sovereigns as being evil, including judges, government officials, etc. Lol, let's all not forget that it's legal for law enforcement to lie so be wary of what they tell you. Throw some more mumbo jumbo trash out here for us to eat up while you're intending to redirect attention from who's really doing wrong, way to go law enforcement. I thought the saying was 'to protect and serve' not 'to degrade and enslave'.

Eric @ 10/24/2014 11:40 AM

Funny how it's turned into an evil thing when a group of people stand up for what's been rightfully obtained by being an American, should we all then assume that the fraternal order of police (FOP) is in fact an evil group that needs to be made aware of to civilians seems how law enforcement can legally lie and have been broadcast across media on multiple occasions for literally killing people and don't have to be held accountable for their actions because the FOP backs them up. I thought it's supposed to be 'you do the crime, you do the time'. Why is it then law enforcement commits the crime but it's explained away as "we have a tough job". Seems a little one sided, furthermore, what would happen to someone if they lied to law enforcement. No need to say more, I'm sure we all know what would happen but it's alright for them to do so making a little one sided again. How about instead of painting a dirty picture of other liberty loving groups, law enforcements works on being held accountable for their actions to paint a better picture of themselves.

Dave @ 10/25/2014 7:30 PM

I'm not a "sovereign" but I believe in my rights and to suggest that protecting yourself from a tyranist government who believes everyone is guilty until proven innocent just shows how gutless and stupid law enforcement truly is. Let's face it 99.9% of law enforcement are ignorant of the law so how can someone enforce something that they don't even know the first thing about. Remember people you have the right to remain silent and they have no right try and identify you unless they have reason to believe that you are engaged or have engaged in criminal activity. Don't leave yourself open by breaking the law just wait until they have acted on their own and you'll have your chance to defend yourself in court!!!

Joe @ 10/28/2014 8:07 PM

Gee whiz, cops! Looks like you might be gravely outmatched in the old fact dept here. My friendly suggestion is to educate yourselves in the factual veracity of what you ignorantly label "sovereign propaganda", realize who you're really "protecting and serving", as you continue your shameful spiral into your role of fascist enforcers. Something to think about, not that anyone expects you will. You can make the choice though, after all you DO have a brain under that cap and a heart behind that badge...right?

Joseph @ 11/5/2014 3:11 PM

What's interesting is growing up My mother's uncle worked at the Vatican, Secretary of State's office, and when he would come back to this country for a visit, he would sit for hours and talk to my family about, subversive movements, the political intrigue going on behind religious movements. My grandfather was a Congressman from the state of Florida and there were federal judges in the family, so I grew up hearing things that government figures talk about behind the scenes. As I grew, I continued to research these areas. I've been waiting for years for someone to deal with these specific subjects that are not normally dealt with. It looks like media& the states have done a fantasic job corroborating that anyone who questions government to look like a crazy conspiracy theorist who wants to shoot up cops at walmart and destroy America. Yeah there are crazy unstable people in the anti-government movement. But there are also a lot of crazy unstable people who love government who want-

Joseph @ 11/5/2014 4:08 PM

want to use it to oppose their will on others.. It really has nothing to do with that because what i have seen is most people who oppose government, are peaceful people who want their rights respected& don't want to violate the rights of others. And value peace justice& freedom above all else, unfortunately this government violates all of these.. It's nice to have an article to inform officers about dangers they might face. In this article however it is constructed in such a way to have decent hard working people who are just trying to make a living- become outraged at who this article aims to discredit.. To be honest if I was not aware of justice, due process& individual rights& that sort of thing, I might be led to sympathise with the writer..It's clever& risky but effective to list what beliefs you want to be regarded as misinterpretation by those who use them. Rights mentioned above can be proven in one form or another. But what people know about they're rights is Very debatable..

Aalim @ 11/14/2014 6:47 AM

This article is not accurate. The Moorish Science Temple of America does not promote any form of breaking the laws of the government. It is in the bylaws of the Temple which is recognized by our government the United States of America and other nations across the world. The Moorish Science Temple of America is about love, truth, peace, freedom and justice. The temples focus is also about uplifting falling Asiatics so they learn that they are citizen's and not black, negro, African American or colored. I am not an official of the temple. I am a member. Please correct your article because it slanders the temple by using false information. If you have questions please contact the Supreme Grand Sheik Braswell Bey in Chicago or refer to the bylaws of the Moorish Science Temple of America. Peace and love to all.

luis @ 11/24/2014 4:33 PM

REMEMBER PEOPLE "citizen" means a slave to the government, the 14th amendment wast to make us slaves. Sovereign is a free man, so "sovereign citizen" contradicts it self. either you are a slave or a master, but cannot be both.
We live in a Republic, as free men and women, with all natural right not privileges.

LT @ 11/26/2014 11:24 PM

Im very dumfounded at the ignorance of this article. Even more worrisome is some of the comments from whom Im assuming are official police officers. Its written on the premise that people who choose not to participate in state issued driving privilege programs are of some rebellious group. As a current student of law, the Constitution reigns supreme. A state drivers license is obtained through a state department's DMV. A license is typically sought for the convenience it provides in todays society, such as seeking a job, leasing a car, etc. Upon accepting a license from your state DMV, you waive your free right to travel and from that point on enter into contract to adhere to all state motor vehicle codes. If you dont enter into this contract with the state, and you choose to drive without a license, you are free to travel under the protection of the US Constitution. This isn't anything radical. This is protection provided by the US Constitution that still exists today.

LT @ 11/26/2014 11:30 PM

Unfortunately the U.S citizenry today isn't too up to speed on their rights, the laws our politicians pass, or anything that is in their own interest. Even our own police departments probably don't teach the officers something as basic as Right to Travel. Thus when confronted with it, they have no clue how to react and most reactions are negative. Im assuming some departments potentially train their officers to subscribe to the same misleading mindset that this article insinuates. Its very simple. Its Law. No Law has ever changed the Right to Travel. Not having a state issued license can lead to a very challenging life in todays society. But for those who choose not to participate, they are truly exercising their right of freedom. Specifically their right to travel. How can anyone not admire that?

Ana @ 12/4/2014 5:52 PM

I certainly understand the frustration when dealing with the "sovereign citizens" who are abusing the law just as much as many of the police officers but what about those good folks who are not in any way against the government but are just tired of the abuse of power by individuals in government. Also what about all the court cases including the supreme court decisions that uphold personal sovereignty? This article is replete with misinformation and the author should do some legitimate research before spouting such silliness.

Ana @ 12/4/2014 6:30 PM

Reading so many of the comments I wanted to add an extra though.

Many of the commenters are talking about persons. That is true. Persons are citizens or individuals and fall under the jurisdiction of the "United States." However PEOPLE created the constitution and are not a part of it nor does it apply to THE PEOPLE. The constitution can't protect the people because sovereigns are above all of it. The constitution is the fence THE PEOPLE put around the government.

amazed @ 12/20/2014 6:07 PM

wow this really trips me out!!! how can so meny law enforcement personel just forget about the CONSTITUTION. you can read it agian if you like. its just mad our country was built on the constitution and they all took othes to uphold the constitution. now i have a good idea the if the cops family was treated unconstitutionly then they would be upset but not when they are taking our rights. i am american born and bread in the great state of maine and think we are all equel here and cant belive you would twist the law for money. to me if you are in law enforcement for money thats wrong you are suposed to be there for your fellow americans and uphold the constitution. im not trying to down anyone but if you try to take my rights as set forth by the constitution ill fight thats my right given to me by the constitution. if you think i dont have those rights please tell me id like to here.

theodore reavis @ 12/31/2014 7:25 AM

The cops don't know about the right to travel law keep telling me its state law I'm like Federal is over state law I show him what the US Supreme Court had stated bout right to travel. He refuse to look at it

Ana @ 2/28/2015 6:16 AM

Interesting to note. U.S. Supreme court in 2000. Bond vs United States. The supreme court upheld that all governments are corporations and all statutes, codes, etc were merely corporate rules of conduct and only apply through the consent of the people to contact and consent with the corporation in each circumstance. Without contact and consent enforcing government rule is illegal and the individual enforcers can be held personally liable for their actions. Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourselves.

scott @ 3/30/2015 2:49 AM

Misleading article that will only result in more Police being killed in the line of duty

Yamcha @ 4/21/2015 6:14 PM

What we really need is a legal option for these people. An official 'sovereign citizenship' they can enter into which frees them from non-harmful obligations [most taxes, social security payment, vehicle licensing etc] and replaces them with restrictions and loss of services and an occasional increased costs [no emergency services rendered, a more expensive 'Sovereign Driver's License' should a Sovereign Citizen wish to drive on Public Roads, etc.] Let them have their 'sovereignty' but let them pay the price for it.

g randle @ 7/29/2015 9:26 AM

Get a legal dictionary and lool.up.sovereignty,and citizens they are complete opposites. The media like this article use them together to confuse people.not in the know, the only thing a citizen is by defintion is belonging to a political party. Get a blacks law dictionary and look it up. You may also want to look up de jure and de facto government for we have a de facto.government in place now. Have a nice day :)

Donna @ 7/29/2015 4:40 PM

Well first of all we do have the right to fight for ourselves ,which truly should be cooperative especially when it was all illegal using us as slaves and tricking us into becoming a corporation anyway.Once one finds the truth it should be respected not neglected.then again sovereignty should not be used for criminal activity but to be free as we were the first day of birth with respect of anything we use.the only one thats Sovereign is the Lord therefore when we are blessed with such a gift we should be the replica of the true and living God but peaceful as he was not violent then just maybe then we and our statuses would be more peaceful LIVING HUMAN SOVEREIGN CHILDREN OF THE LIVING GOD

Darren @ 8/6/2015 5:13 PM

You can travel without a license. The legal definition of driving and any of its variants means to travel with intent to commerce. To do business. That's the privilege. The right to travel by means of personal conveyance is a right protected and upheld by the supreme court. And, it has nothing to do with sovereignty. You don't need to be a sovereign to travel by means of personal conveyance. And, it's 100% legal. This magazine is trying to confuse law enforcement and citizens with this article. It's supreme court law. Look it up and don't take our word for it. You're only creating confusion and risk to citizens and law enforcement with this article.

Bob @ 12/18/2015 10:20 AM

I'm confused. ...police kill people (good and bad) every day so should we watch them and see where they live and what they drive and who they hang with...Who ever writes this stuff has no clue. You would rather start shit and point fingers over two nuts that kill cops then understand it. Now the state of Indiana issued my papers to me to be a sovereign person and signed by the secretary of state Charles P. White of Indiana. So if we are all crazy why do states issue these rights to to police officers and public speaks do look to see what the rights are given us by the state. So before you brand us cop killers and kooks do your research because two bad people don't make us all bad ...that's called profiling

Bob @ 12/18/2015 10:36 AM

I do want to add that taking a life over this by either side was a waste of life any way you look at it and mistakes were made on both sides ...killing or harming someone is never the answer to prove your point ....this is why we have a constitution

Debbie Tharp @ 12/19/2015 2:18 PM

Listen, protecting one's rights in court is not a form of terrorism. Simply labeling something does not make it so. This is simply an attempt to convince officers that it is ok to violate Constitutional and human rights. It is not. And being a sovereign does not make one violent. Being violent makes one violent. Most sovereigns will not initiate any kind of physical violence because doing so would violate the victim's right to life. In other words, they simply have more respect for the law than you do.

I put my name on this. I pay my taxes. I work and live within the system because I hope to make it better for all. I hope that most police officers are doing what they do for exactly the same reason.

Grow up.

Leonard @ 12/22/2015 11:28 AM

those of us who served our countries on both sides of the border made it possible for the elite to place these laws and contracts to control the masses. If you have a social insurance number you are a slave and a dependent of this system. Police are executors of this system but corrupted by the authority and given the right to kill, insight violence to expnerate themselves from prosecution. We are forever at war here on our own soil, the enemy sits in a court room, a politician, a crown prosecuto and a policeman

Barry @ 12/26/2015 12:22 AM

Who wrote this x- cop it has to be or some x- government just try to intimidate and scare the common person . That's the way the government works .whats wrong if you don't want to be a part of there fuck up and there shit because I shure as shit don't. All they have ever done for me was make my life hard.

Brandon @ 12/31/2015 1:44 AM

I'm no sovereign but l am an American and many of my family have laid their lives down to keep this country free and l have to say it sickens me to my core to see articles like this. l don't agree with what the 2 men they used as examples were doing but had the police not violated their constitutional rights would any of that had happened? The constitution does clearly state that no US citizen shall be regulated such is as done by requiring licensing or insurance to operate on a public hi way let me emphasize that for our law enforcement officers (PUBLIC) as in we the people own it and pay for it with our tax dollars.You as officers are sworn servants who are not to impede or harrass any US citizen who is using any US public hi way system during the course of everyday life for business or pleasure if they are not causing damage to the hi way or to another citizens private property this is an unalienable right to move from one place to another with a person's personal belongings at their discretion (UNALIENABLE ) cannot be changed to benefit any state or local entities best interest so that they may profit from our rights being taken away that as well is against the constitution the very fabric for which made this nation great is being ripped in half by the very people who should be fighting the hardest to preserve it. Officers you are doing the greatest injustice by allowing a corrupt government to trample our basic human rights and you don't even see it but your generations down the road will suffer most because they will never understand what it means to truly be free. This reckless and rapid encroachment of a government that was supposed to be in place to protect the people's rights has ultimately became more of a burden on the American public than a help.

Sincerely 1 of 100,000,000.00 pissed off Americans!!!

darrel @ 1/3/2016 6:40 AM


Some Random @ 1/9/2016 7:40 PM

POLIC(y)E OFFICERs: please understand that I acknowledge that you are human beings and not robots. Having said that, I love my God, my family, my friends, my country, my Constitution, my Bill of Rights, my countrymen and would be honored to throw myself into harms way for any of these. Am I too understand that by the authors and supporters of this article this makes me an alleged terrorist? Really??
Let's take the guy in this article for instance. I'm confused. Did this man damage property or hurt anyone? Did he go out specifically looking for a police officer to shoot at? Or did this man feel violated, regardless of his mental state, to the point that he was surrounded by no less than, according to this article, 12 armed men and disorienting flashing lights? Over what....a few hundred dollar fine, maybe a couple hours in the town "cooler"? Think about it. I don't condone shoot-outs at the OK Corral, but I've met some of these people. They don't strike me any differently than some

Some Random @ 1/9/2016 7:56 PM

of the police officers and firemen I've met. Some are calm, intelligent, people. Others aren't necessarily evil people, but are way rough around the edges and aren't best suited to public life. Poor parenting? Who knows! Point is a lot of these so-called nut jobs live by the old moral code of Don't start none. Won't be none. What's wrong with that? I implore you to look up Judge Anna Von Reitz of Alaska State. Perhaps her words won't come off as sounding terroristic. Mostly because they are not her words. They are the laws she's duty bound to uphold. There is a difference between the Continental united States of America (Our Country) and the United States of America, Inc. If none of this persuades you then go to any traffic court, plain clothed, outside of your local jurisdiction and just watch the scamboogery that takes place. Straight up extortion! Watch how much $$$ that building makes in an hour alone. You'll quickly see why many folks have a sour taste for "law" enforcement.

just me @ 1/27/2016 10:08 PM

police do a troubled job, but they don't know the law, they are revenue agents for the state, they don't know that the supreme court states that if you do not drive commercially, that you don't need a drivers licence because your traveling, not driving, look up the definition, and you don't need to register your auto and you don't need forced auto insurance, and you don't need state issued licence plates, it has nothing to do with sovereignty-it's supreme court dicisions and that's the law of the land. the police should bone up on the law and not just believe what they think is their law--look up supreme court dicisions and drivers vs. traveling. do your homework...

Some Random @ 1/28/2016 6:21 PM

Thanks just me. It's reassuring to hear from someone who makes sense. Just because something opposes the status quo doesn't necessarily make it wrong. I feel the prob is the officers are taught just enough law to not cross the line. Then they get corrupt coaching by the prosecutor as they go. What they really should be taught is common law and not maritime/statutory law. Respectfully, how much can one really learn in just a few years of criminal justice. I say the truth, a LEO in the know would make a dangerous impact on modern society! To me being a LEO is one of the most noble choices a human being could make. It's no different than joining a branch of the military. A life is just as important as the next. To volunteer one's for another is humbling to me. I would proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with a LEO as would anyone. But until the day the public feels like your out there with us and not hunting for us, sadly, you reap what you sow. I wish you guys safety, clarity, and thanks

Juror 64529 @ 2/3/2016 9:05 PM


Notice to agent is notice to principal and also the press.
I took a true oath of allegiance to One Country, One Flag, Under God.

If anyone think fraud is legal or lawful under God please come forward and prove to me that The letter of the law, The style of the law, and The color of the law has not been breached after you go YouTube, Search
1 . Tyranny, U.N. Flag stands taller than U.S. flag.
WTF People? When you took your driver's license test can anyone show me anywhere on your contract with any D.M.V. contract were you agreed to have your traffic case heard or judged under any false flag dichotomy or foreign flag like a U.N. flag?

Please submit your proof or end this stupid discussion once and for all.

2. YouTube, Search:
Commissioner in Florida pledge allegiance to Satan and Allah.

Give me a break
Now the stupidity is just getting overwhelming for me.

How about you all?
Anyone care to make a litigitmat argument at this point?


Juror 64529 @ 2/3/2016 9:12 PM


All the PDF Files


U.S. Suppreme Court Justice David Davis (1815 - 1886)

Was quoted to say:

Martial Law can never exist where the courts are open, and in proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction it is also confined to the locality of actual war.


Rich @ 2/4/2016 7:01 PM

It's funny...the "tactics and propaganda" you claim sovereigns are criminally commiting..are THE EXACT same methods you idiots use to enforce your law. Instead of getting you incorrect information from another dumb ass law enforcement the research yourself. You were born with a brain...not a gun.

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