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Ore. Man's Gun Grab in City Hall

Beaverton (Ore.) Police arrested an 18-year-old who wrestled a gun away from an officer while high on mushrooms. Read the full story here.

July 30, 2013

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Mark @ 7/30/2013 5:07 PM

Holly hell! Get a different holster!

Steve @ 7/30/2013 5:50 PM

Legalize drugs!

Bob@Az. @ 7/30/2013 10:34 PM

Damn lucky.

JD @ 7/31/2013 1:36 AM

Definitely a new holster here. But this photo clearly explains some of the complaints regarding women in law enforcement. The female officer left! Then she came back but while the other officers were still fighting the guy, she needed to walk over to the counter to place an item on it, then she came back to assist. Maybe she didn't want to get hurt, but clearly the other officers were still in need of help. No thanks to her. It appears this court should disarm it's officers and or upgrade the training. Are they aware of Tasers?

Leo S. @ 7/31/2013 4:51 AM

in response to JD: I agree with the comment about the actions of this female officer. I would be digusted if it was a male officer too. All similar videos I've seen of combative subjects and female officers tend to show the female officer as hands off and watching from the sidelines and they circle around as if they are actively participating in the combat to subdue the active resister/combative subject. Not saying all female officers are like this but need to see some proof that there are some a$$ kicking females out there who are more than willing to assist a brother/sister officer in need.

Liz Jones @ 7/31/2013 7:04 AM

I too am ashamed of this female and her lack of action. I have worked with plenty of a$$ kicking female officers who would NEVER allow the guys to have all the fun. No idea what her deal was. There was a 2nd female officers who came in and jumped right in towards the end.

RPG @ 7/31/2013 7:34 AM

That is a bargain store quality video. The PD needs to re-examine its choice. If those officers had been forced to shoot this subject, the video may or may not have been helpful in the impending civil action.

Jim B. @ 7/31/2013 8:51 AM

In her partial defense, it appears to me that she is taking the pistol that the bad guy got a hold of and putting it on the counter (out of the area) after rendering it safe. I agree it "looks" like she could have been more involved in the struggle but as we've all said in other situations, the video doesn't show everything.

Capt. Crunch @ 7/31/2013 9:53 AM

What a Numnut, glad the officers didn't get hurt.

MAC @ 7/31/2013 10:10 AM

this is definitely a training tool for police officers. Different method to tackle someone that can't reach holster; also female officers have to not assume that the guys have a handle on the suspect. A little help goes along way! you don't have to be strong but tactical. I agree with the taser option.

Steve @ 8/1/2013 7:15 AM

Too bad there is no audio to go with this. It would have been interesting to HEAR what was going on also. The female officer didn't appear to know HOW to help in the beginning. But eventually decided that laying on the guy was at least helping in some way. Holster issue is paramount in all this. Holster company should be sent a copy of this video to show them how easy it was for this guy to get the gun. And that officer should be required to get a new, more secure holster.
There'd have been no guarantee on effectiveness of using a taser on this guy, as high as he was he may not have even felt it. I have to admit though I'd had to have tried it on him.
Officers did a good job of subduing the perp. I'm glad none of them got seriously hurt.
Hey state legislators, ask this guy what drug he started out using and I bet he'll tell you marijuana. So don't fall for the ignorant reasoning behind legalizing marijuana as a recreational or medical product. It only leads to the use of harder drugs and incidents like this one!

Sgt. Graham @ 8/3/2013 7:14 AM

Good training video, I'm with all of you on the holster. Our Department uses level 3 Safariland STX holsters. You can pick an Officer up off the ground while grabbing the gun and it isn't coming out until released. However you must practice with your holster so its released without thinking about it. Glad nobody got hurt. Incidently the State Police uses the same holster we do.

MedicineWoman @ 8/3/2013 9:40 AM

@Steve - I agree with much of what you said, however - I would bet you that his first drug was a LEGAL ONE such as ALCOHOL OR TOBACCO. They are the first to alter people, therefore the gateway. Cannabis is an exit drug... is used to get people OFF of heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. Good luck!

MIke @ 8/4/2013 9:05 AM

A Taser may have caused him to shoot if his finger was near the trigger due to the muscle reaction it is based upon. Even if he were high his muscles would react to the Taser hit. A clean contact shot to the head would have done the job. Lets stop tip toeing around the appropriate ending of this struggle. He could have KILLED all three officers in that room.

Stephen @ 8/7/2013 2:08 PM

One day officers will learn how to not dog pile someone and use some actual control techniques. I can only imagine the frustration of the defensive tactics instructors that watch the people they train to only revert back (while under stress) the dog pile. Glad nobody got shot.

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