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Ambush at Ohio T-Stop

An anti-authority suspect opened fire on Officers Brandon Savage and Erin Thomas at a vehicle stop. They returned fire, shooting and killing the suspect. Warning: Video contains graphic content. Read the full story here.

May 03, 2013

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brad @ 5/3/2013 3:01 PM

That was suicide by cop if you ask me...He did not take cover and just stood in the open firing until he was fatality wounded.

Eugene Natkong @ 5/3/2013 3:14 PM

It really looks like "Suicide by Cop" if since motive hasn't been established yet. It offers no motives in this video. it appears very much intentional.

Jim B. @ 5/4/2013 10:05 AM

Good job by the officers in quickly identifying the threat and engaging the target. This is a good example of why we need to train to shoot until the threat is gone, not just fire a few shots and stop. Sounded like a good volume of fire from the officers initially. The bad guy appears to get hit at least a couple of times but doesn't go down. He goes down to one knee at one point but then stands back up and shoots some more. There is a period in there where the officers are not firing even though the bad guy is not down and they are talking back and forth about if each are ok and to call for back up. Communication in a situation like this is a good thing but Job #1 is to put the bad guy down. The female officers even says "You cover, I'll call for backup." Cover hell, shoot the bastard! He's still up with his gun in his hand.

I'm not criticizing the officers because I think they did a hell of a job. But this is a reminder to all of us to stay in the fight until the fight is finished. I also realize that part of the reason for the lull in the officers firing is because they might have been performing a reload. They attached article says the officers fired 54 shots so there were definitely some reloads in there. I do like the pouring on of fire when they do finally put him down. Make sure he is not only down but good and down!

Good job to both officers. I wish them both a speedy recovery.

Bman @ 5/6/2013 3:32 PM

Great job officers. A critique for all of to use, in learning from this, lets get out of that damn office when it comes to a stop and be ready to shoot. She recognized the threat pretty fast but she does like I do and says "whoa" which I have done when I should have just said gun or threat. Small difference but I think saying gun may be more helpful to your partner. I have to practice telling myself to say gun in picturing the scenario because twice, I did what she did. Good job to the officers and I am glad you are safe.

Capt. Crunch @ 5/6/2013 4:02 PM

Good job officers.

John Bihon @ 5/6/2013 4:40 PM

That was nutz ... I do not think the officers should sit in their patrol cars that long ...But I am sure happy they had the eye to see the weapon quick enough ... Dang it ...Glad they showed it just the way it went down ...Hopefully other officers learn from it ...

[email protected] @ 5/6/2013 5:11 PM

Glad both Officers are going to be OK. Definitly SBC and all the more reason to carry something more the a nine. This will make a great training/refresher film, hopefully with comments by the two Officers added in. Blues, Stay Safe, the crazies are out.

Jeremy Young @ 5/6/2013 6:07 PM

Ever since the Hollywood shootout, I am a firm believer in the same use of firepower out there for the Brave men and women who lay their lives on the line for us day in and day out. I really believe that we should be carrying AR-15's or whatever rifle it is to match the exact firepower that these people on the streets are carrying. This is not to say that I agree with any sort of firearm rights being infringed upon, but I do believe that ALL Law Enforcement should be able to match the firepower. Especially since there are agencies out there that have turned their sights towards eliminating budget shortfalls, by going to smaller caliber service pistols. To me, that is a foolish thing to do. Officers will therefore, once again, be outgunned and out powered.

I believe that those fine Officers, Officer Brandon Savage and Officer Erin Thomas were above and beyond outstanding. They did exactly what they had to with what they had. We are never prepared for a gun battle unless we have lived through one, and even then you can never prepare yourself. Those Officers were well in the mindset for that situation. Unprovoked, unsustainable as the situation became, it is a friendly reminder to all of us that a Routine Traffic Stop (Which there is no such thing), of which a lot of us will do thousands of those in our career. Either way, what seems mundane at time, can quickly go south and could cost us our lives. It is up to us on whether we stay in the fight, as these fine Officers did, or if we coward away from a deadly situation as such.

I hope these Officers recover and are able to once again return to the career choice they made and help protect and serve the streets of Middlefield.

miike grunewald @ 5/6/2013 6:50 PM

one sob we don't have to house and feed for the rest of his life good shooting

Francis @ 5/7/2013 4:11 AM

It is not a suicide by cop scenario. Don't assume that you know it all, or you only make an ass out of yourself. If the Suspect didn't open fire except to compel the officers to shoot, that would be a suicide by cop scenario. In this case, the bad guy clearly shot at the officers as soon as he stepped out of his car. He kept shooting on the moves. I have seen quite a few videos. Cop killers behaved just like this suspect. Luckily, both officers returned fires at the very early stages and struck the suspect. After the bad buy realized that he had been hit multiple times, that was when he shouted "go ahead and kill me." Either way, if any bad guy killed an officer, he would get killed immediately when he's found, but that is NOT a suicide by cop scenario.

pup @ 5/7/2013 3:20 PM

First, I like to say I'm glad both officers are alive with minor injuries. I know it could have been much worst and God was watching over them that day. Also, I'm glad to see they didn't give until the bad guy was put down and no longer a threat.
Since I agree with most comments regarding kudos for a job well done, I need to criticize the officers upon their initial T-Stop. If you review the entire video(, you will noticed upon the stop, both officers remained in their vehicle talking for nearly 40 seconds until exiting. Upon their approach, both officers were on the driver side of the vehicle. The vehicle is a death trap. We all know it. So, give yourself a chance and get out of the car right away.
If you're an FTO and wanting your trainee to approach the driver, you still split up and approach on both sides of the vehicle. Don't make an easy target for two. As for getting on the radio, I agree with the comments. Put down the threat if possible before calling dispatch. Otherwise, you may never get the information to dispatch if the threat is still engaging....Good job and to all brothers/sisters in LE, God Bless and stay safe...

HAL ADLEMAN @ 5/9/2013 4:18 PM

You've got an active shooter attacking the officers. The #1 priority is to stop him. Yet the officers stopped shooting in the middle of the fight with the threat still active. And the female officer actually was suggesting she spend her time calling dispatch while the other provides "cover." It's too late for "cover," it's time to throw lead downrange. Astounding poor judgment to be talking and worrying about notifying dispatch when she should be concentrating on front sight and trigger press. Glad things worked out okay.

[email protected] @ 5/9/2013 10:35 PM

Francis, I don't mean to cut you down but I really don't care how many "videos" you've seen. The man left the safety and cover of his vehicle and walked back and forth in front of the squad. The fact that the Officers substained few serious injures makes me wonder about his intent. Maybe I'm reading this wrong but a video sure don't equal experence. Blues, Stay Safe.

Judith Kelley @ 5/24/2013 9:56 PM

This could have been suicide by cop who knows. He could have picked better prepared officers. Sit in the car and let someone open fire on you. and the swearing of the male officer. None to professional. And yes, I do know of what I am speaking. !0 yrs. Deputy Sheriff, In Texas.

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