FREE e-Newsletter
Important News - Hot Topics
Get them Now!

Rough Arrest at Ore. Strip Club

Portland Police officers used a TASER and punches to subdue a man in a strip club's parking lot in a rough arrest captured by the club's video system. Read the full story here.

April 11, 2013

Comments (27)

Displaying 1 - 27 of 27

udaman @ 4/11/2013 4:38 PM

It looks to me like the suspect was compliant. Is there some police procedure I do not know about that says it is ok to punch a handcuffed man in the face while he is on the ground? I hope not.
My wild guess is there is a personal element involved here.

Illinois Lieutenant @ 4/11/2013 4:44 PM

In what world is this NOT excessive use of Force. He most certainly is resisting, but when does it rise to the level of closed fist punches, multiple closed fist strikes. And then Barbie decides to intiate a drive stun with the taser. This Department needs someone other than their Lieutenant commenting on this event. I believe they were surprised by the fact it was being videotaped.. All three had better hope some good FBI agent doesn't get to initate a Human Rights case. 30+ years experience, Control Tactics & Pressure Points Instructor, veteran of literally hundreds of physical confrontations, wish I were his Attorney.

maleman39 @ 4/11/2013 4:46 PM

The guy in the white shirt walked and gestured normally and didn't look like he was drunk to me. But--who knows what he said to infuriate the police. The place to disagree is in the courtroom, not on the street with the police. There were enough police there to subdue the man without tasering and punching him. I did not see signs of violent resisting.

Bill @ 4/10/2013 5:51 PM

Yet another in a long line line of people who don't really know what happened, however purport to be experts on the use of force. Previous posters: if you are in law enforcement, you know there it's now to this story. Illinois lieutenant: I would hate to work for you if all you do is watch a video, then take the criminal's side.

Smitty @ 4/10/2013 6:00 PM

Funny! A lieutenant commenting on a story, in which he says a lieutenant should not be commenting on. I agree with Bill on this, would hate to workfor someone who doesn't understand all officers are different.

Capt. Crunch @ 4/11/2013 6:39 PM

Illinois Lieutenant, do me a favor and stay behine your desk and away from the street. In my book the officers did a good job.

Toronto @ 4/11/2013 6:40 PM

The Large Skin Officer is clearly out of line, You can not punch in the face an individual, while on the ground and cuffed, This kind of conduct is from Latin American police, is he from there?? when I see this kind of conduct from this side of the border makes me think, who that hell hire him?

leonard mather @ 4/11/2013 7:18 PM

Eventually, it is hoped, that Perps will learn to follow commands, to comply, to cooperate and to avoid using language indicating noncompliance or resistance. Be respectful. Go along with the program and avoid inciting the Truism: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In short: Comply and cooperate.

me @ 4/10/2013 7:25 PM


How bout you stick to what you know, not think. Cops die routinely story do death by invisible guns. A rable-rouser wont give up his hands, you MUST assume he's trying for a weapon with which to kill you. You bet your ass punches and a Teaser are appropriate. The Guy as not hurt. He's another dirt ball suckling at the law-suit teet.

StupidComments @ 4/11/2013 7:42 PM

Uhh... the video CLEARLY shows the suspect keeping his hands beneath his chest while on the ground. The video CLEARLY shows that the suspect is NOT handcuffed on the ground at the time the strikes are being applied. The video CLEARLY shows the suspect pulling away upon the initial attempt to place handcuffs on him. That anyone thinks differently is fricking shocking, man.

gary @ 4/11/2013 8:42 PM

onceacopandcuffs thesuspect that schouldbe the end ofit if aney
peaceofficers uses eccesive foce schouldbe suspended with out
pay for thierowngoodrthyschouldbefierd if they are badge heavy

Theunis @ 4/12/2013 12:07 AM

Well done to the officers involved. People look at the video and consider only the scenario shown. As an officer in the field you have to deal with this sort of incident over and over again. You _have_ to have best practices toward events to protect yourself, fellow officers and possibly the public. What if the guy had a concealed weapon ? What if he is physically immensely strong, overpowers an officer and disarms him ? I say, Mr. Perp, if the first punch lands and it is not to your taste, SURRENDER. If the taser does not grab your fancy, quit being the textbook felon, and SURRENDER. Give the officers reason to suspend the offensive.

mike @ 4/11/2013 1:28 AM

Hey Toronto, don't b a hoser eh.

Tom @ 4/12/2013 6:07 AM

I agree with all who commented on Illinois Lieutenant's comment. The video doesn't tell it all.

slang @ 4/12/2013 6:46 AM

I see the officer on the subjects right side trying to control an arm until the video jumps and the subject is controlled by the cuffs at which time they stand up. In our State there are yes people and no people when it comes to cuffing, no maybe's. You get the right subject resisting on the ground and that can be a load to deal with. I see nothing in the video that tells me this subject is less than that.

Jimbo @ 4/12/2013 7:38 AM

No excessive force here. As a trainer I would want maybe a quicker application of handcuffs then you avoid the whole mess, but the initial attempt at handcuffing is not clearly seen as the view is obstructed by the officers. Obviously whatever they tried didn't work so if I were in charge of the the department I would want to know why. Not to render punishment but to try to do things better. Perfection, while not attainable, is still the goal.

Most good officers I know are pretty self-critical after any force event always looking for ways to improve.

Again, this not an excessive force event and the video clearly shows it is not excessive. I don't know what the Illinois Lieutenant is seeing but it isn't what most of us are seeing.

capt. davis @ 4/12/2013 9:11 AM

from what i c in the video is a combative person,he would not show his hands there fore you do what is needed to get that hand out to cuff, boys in blue go home safe tonight. Good Job, just take down faster next time.

Real Cop @ 4/12/2013 10:07 AM

I rarely comment, but assuming any of the individuals who purport to be "Police Administrators" are actually such individuals, and who call this "excessive force", your ignorance is frightening. Any professional Law Enforcement Use of Force instructor with even a rudimentary understanding of the law (I shall concede, CA law), recognize this as a clear example of an appropriate use of force. I will not waste any of my time explaining why. If your ignorant self-righteous behavior is an example of your agency's overall attitude, I apologize to all of your sworn staff.

Dep. Ron @ 4/12/2013 10:44 AM

I watched this video about 4-5 times and it seems there is a bit of confusion here. To start with, the man does not seem to be drunk at all. He walked very straight and even waived to someone off to the side.He did not stagger, weave or look like he was losing his balance. He even walked over and pointed to the side explaining something without even hesitating or 'almost falling.'
Secondly, this looks like it was a setup and planned arrest and they were waiting for him. The big guy with the ballcap had all intentions of making an arrest and he kept to the side of the guy, ready to grab when needed. Looks like the guy got on the wrong side of somebody who wanted retaliation.
Now, look at the punches. You guys claim the punches were to the shoulder. I disagree. The Big guy was too far up and blocking the shoulders and you can see in the one punch, the mans face is where the big guys fist was going. Yeah Right!! You're going to say I'm wrong. Let IA or the FBI watch the video and I'm sure they will agree with me. Nice Coverup for the officers. If I was the guy on the ground, I would have resisted too, because he knew it was already planned and there were too many to fight off.

westcoastleo @ 4/12/2013 11:21 AM

Here's to all of you people who think that that guy should have not been stopped checked or taken to jail, how about if the police did not stop him for fear of an incident like this? He would have been able to run free drink and drive and run over your kids, family and friends. The time will come one day when law enforcement in this nation will refuse to do the job due to all of the second guessing by weak other coppers and idiots who do not know how to do the job or won't do it. Then we will see what is out there running the streets. Try living in Mexico now days with police who are on the take or just stand around and watch doing nothing for fear of loosing ones head. This guy refused to cooperate, he was drunk, he resisted, and he got put down and handcuffed then went to jail. Case closed. He got what he deserved. In my day he would have gotten his ass kicked more than what we saw.

john @ IA retired @ 4/12/2013 12:42 PM

You don’t have to be falling down drunk to be an impaired driver. The suspect does look to be good size. It is obvious that as they were attempting to cuff him, he was resisting. They did not use unnecessary force to throw him to the ground. They placed him there. I couldn’t tell from the video for sure, but it looked like the few punches were lower than the suspects head. As soon as the hand cuffs were on, the officers backed off. There was a 4th, I think officer, off to the side. You did not see any piling on of the suspect while he was on the ground or after he was tasered and cuffed. As for the large officer walking around to the side of the suspect, that’s just good police work. I am retired after being in law enforcement for 25 years, and was a defensive tactics instructor. The only thing I see that was wrong was the suspect resisting. Good job officers.

jshook @ 4/12/2013 1:25 PM

The Lt. needs to get out from behind his desk and face the real world again... The Officers acted with restraint, and did an outstanding job. Just so happens my father who is a civil attorney who has a background in Law Enforcement misconduct watched the video and stated that he would not have even taken the case... The Lt. Above is so far out of touch its scary.. this is a man that could possibly take a job from a good Officer for doing his job... Sorry for the men in blue who work for this so called supervisor. Good luck IL.

Scottie @ 4/12/2013 4:38 PM

This appeared to be within my departments policy and I believe the force used was reasonable. For those that comment that he didn't appear drunk must have magic powers since they can determine that from approx 5 seconds of video as he walks. I've seen .20% BAC and up seem almost normal. Here is a reminder to the desk jockeys.... we do not have to use equal force to overcome resistance. We do not have to wrestle with a wrestler, box with a boxer, bring a sword to a sword fight, etc. The goal is to end the struggle as quickly and safely as possible. Yes Dep. Ron, that means you can punch people in the face.

What kind of a "LT"/supervisor/leader calls another Officer "Barbie" for tasing a physically resisting suspect? You should promote to Capt. so you comments will carry even less weight than they already do.

Without being there and just watching the video, I say excellent work Officer's, keep up the good job. Glad to see you are safe.

uslawman1983 @ 4/15/2013 7:21 AM

Maybe I'm not seeing something on the video but from I CAN see, there's NO problem here. He wasn't giving up his hands. I'd strike him too. There were no more strikes once he was cuffed. End of story. And I'm lieutenant that's always worked the street and still do today.

Bob@Az. @ 4/17/2013 11:47 PM

OK, Watched the video, twice, and saw a very nice take down of a combative suspect who was fighting the Officers by not putting his arms behind his back. Who knows what he had in his waistband? Blues, stay safe. Oh, by tyhe way, Illinois Lt., 30+ years & still only a Lt?

Longarm9 @ 6/28/2013 10:00 PM

Wow, there sure are a lot of idiots posting on this video. The use of force was totally appropriate for reasons that have already been said. As soon as the handcuffs were properly applied, all the officers got off the subject. If you are a LEO and you watch this video and think otherwise, you need to get your ass back to the academy because you haven't got a clue.

J. Dog @ 6/30/2013 12:51 PM

For one not 1 person posting has any clue about what really went on. Did the Perp, spit at or on the officer? Have the officer come across this guy before? As everyone knows unless you were there we fully don't know the scope or full details of what happened. It's so easy to pass judgment when we were not there in battle with this guy. We just don't have all the facts, I would have done this or that when we only see what we want to see!

Join the Discussion

POLICE Magazine does not tolerate comments that include profanity, personal attacks or antisocial behavior (such as "spamming" or "trolling"). This and other inappropriate content or material will be removed. We reserve the right to block any user who violates this, including removing all content posted by that user.

Other Recent Videos

Police Magazine