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Philly Officer Punches Woman

Philadelphia Police Lt. Jonathan Josey punched a woman in the face at the Puerta Rican Day Parade on Sunday. Read the full story here.

October 04, 2012

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doubtful @ 10/4/2012 4:40 PM

At most that appears to be an open hand slap. Definitely not a punch.

John Henry @ 10/4/2012 7:32 PM

I watched the video several times and each time I wonder why the LT is looking at his open palm immediately following the strike. Prior to the strike, the "Suspect X" walked up on the group of Officers and obviously did something because the group turned towards her and she began a hasty retreat. Calling the strike a "Punch To The Face" is a gross exageration, from what I saw if the LT really punched her in the face she would have been down and out. Verbal at the least Written at the maximum.

[email protected] @ 10/4/2012 9:03 PM

John Henry, I too watched the video and noted the black shirt/ shorts person throw a liquid at the Officers just as the woman approaches them and then turns and walks towards the person who threw it. At that point the LT, without any hesitation smacks her in the face, knocking her to the ground. Bad example of police work. Maybe not fired, but damn sure demoted. Blues, stay safe.

The Rock @ 10/5/2012 2:12 AM

If you look at the start of the video you see someone through a liquid in the direction of the officer's. She was standing in the direction the water came from.

Robert Knowles @ 10/5/2012 10:46 AM

If you watch it several times, at the beginning for sure then you see another person in black throw some kind of liquid towards the officers and the woman was infront of who ever it was and then turns and walks back towards that person. The officers must of thought that she threw it at them. I don't condone hitting someone when your not sure of the facts, if she "said" something towards the officers she still shouldn't have been struck.

Luke Easter @ 10/5/2012 5:43 PM

Let's see, Big cop hit woman in the face from behind?

Domestic Violence is running rampant therefore....

Lakotah @ 10/7/2012 7:37 AM

If you watch the video very close, you can clearly see that the female also got hit with the water, she was turning around to see who threw it also. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and shouldn't have been heading to see that the LE's were doing to begin with.
The perception of the Lt. was probably she threw it and was trying to beat feet out of there.
Watch it close and you can see the girl gets hit with the water too.

Lakotah @ 10/7/2012 8:07 AM

In not condoning his actions, just not going to quarterback it.

Internal Affairs Commande @ 10/9/2012 8:13 PM

This Lieutenant was way out of line attacking a female bystander whom he assumed threw the water at him. Knee jerk reaction could be a career ending event. As a Lieutenant you have to set an example for your men. He put every one of his officers in a bad situation come lawsuit time. Did you see the other officers trying to turn their back to him so as not to be a witness? A six foot something 200lb male Lieutenant against a five foot nothing 100 & nothing female. What threat did he perceive that would justify him sucker punching/slapping a female bystander that had he back to him? No matter what you do always assume you are being video tapped. If this Lieutenant knew he was being video tapped I guarantee he would not do what was caught on video; and don’t get caught lying in an administrative interrogation, that in and of itself is a career ending event.

Cap @ 10/10/2012 2:09 PM

See also had something in her hand and appears to have thrown it toward the officers, see very beginning of the video. Not an excuse for the excessive response but also not an innocent bystander

naynaybeme @ 10/16/2012 4:06 AM

The punch/slap definitely not necessary from this vantage point. He drew blood from her mouth area. Without knowing all the facts it's hard to make a stand either way.

mpena112 @ 10/19/2012 7:05 PM

Watch the video from the beginning, frame by frame. She clearly through water from her water bottle toward the LT. started to go around the officers when a second person through some more water toward the officers, she turned to walk away and got hit by the LT. I do not believe she deserved that slap, as big as the LT. was he could have just grabbed her and cuffed her. He allowed his emotions to get in the way, and lost it for a second. Very un-professional.

kjsccsd @ 10/31/2012 10:55 PM

Seeing the video i find it hard to justify that level of force against that female, even if she threw the water,which she didnt. Bad form Lt. one bad judgement call can end a career..

Foster @ 2/26/2013 6:13 PM

I don't care if this woman did throw water on the officer. That was unwarranted... look at the size of that guy... he couldn't have simple grabbed her & arrested her?

Andy s @ 2/26/2013 6:44 PM

Everyone is guessing it was only water, we don't know what it was, but she assaulted the officer and he had every right to react the way he did to effect and arrest. Good for him,he did punch her and anyone who sees this or said that is totally a blind bat. Yes her slapped he, so what, he affected the arrest without further incident.

Mark @ 2/26/2013 6:46 PM

Glad to see Lt. was acquitted today! For those nay sayers, Lt. Josey was attempting to swat the beer bottle out of her hand. You guys need to stand up for your brothers in blue!

Jim A @ 2/26/2013 6:58 PM

I will definitely stand up for my brothers in blue if I can. I have done just that many times, have saved careers, and have personally lost stars and stripes over it. I am not afraid to do it again and will without any second thought. As for the Lt., I cannot say what his intention was. You viewers have opposing opinions of what actually occurred, this girl's involvement in throwing anything, and what the Lieutenant did. I am not saying he did anything wrong, but most can all agree that the video "looks bad". The judge got to hear both sides and made his decision. I bet the girl does not get involved in this sort of event ever again.

Leonard Mather @ 2/26/2013 7:17 PM

We are judged by the company we keep. LEOS are there to keep order. It is best to avoid disorderly conduct, and people who engage in it. Conclusion, get the Hell away from chaos. The judge made a call after hearing the case. We do not live in a perfect world. It is our personal responsibility to behave. Shun chaos. Flee if you have to. Do not show up to engage in it or lend to it. Respect LEOS.

Crystal @ 2/26/2013 9:13 PM

Agree with some. The video "appears" that he just smacked her to what you assume was someone throwing "water" at him, but I don't believe that was the case. There was more to this story that just the video didn't show. I too will always back my fellow officers!

SSG Becker @ 2/27/2013 12:31 AM

I do support my fellow officers always with the exception of when they are wrong. In this case it would appear to me that this officers frustration was misdirected. I watched the video several times and the individual throwing what I presume to be beer on the crowd of police officers, does so just as the woman in question is walking near the group of Officers. I believe, from what I understood in the video that she too was struck with the flying beer and when she turned to move away from what she realized was a potentially escalating situation involving the police; the Officer mistakenly assumed she was the beer throwing culprit. We all make mistakes and I absolutely don't believe that he should be fired; however, I also don't support the use of force involved in this arrest either.

Nichole @ 2/27/2013 4:14 AM

After hearing the testimony, I actually can see that it may have been accidental. And I believe that.

But even if that wasn't the case and he just cold cocked her, she deserved it. I absolutely can not tolerate people disrespecting law enforcement and acting like they're untouchable for it. It makes me sick.

People need to think. F*ck the police, right? Ok... lets take away all law enforcement and see how long you last in the filth and decay you cause with your childish behavior.

Nichole @ 2/27/2013 4:14 AM

SSG Becker - Check the video again. You can clearly see she also throws liquid from her bottle at the officer.

Brad C. @ 2/27/2013 4:19 AM

Yeah that looked more like a "close-line" as if he were swatting something from her possession, it didn't appear this enormous man intended to hurt this female. If in fact his intentions were to cause her harm rather than make her comply it never appeared so in this video. I volunteer at my local church with video/audio mixing, the sound of that smack can very easily be inserted to help or hinder ones belief of what took place. Sound effects are great tools when attempting to alter ones opinion. When a police officer is investigating what happened and you attempt to throw water, beer or a freakin q-tip at the officer you have just hindered his investigation and to me that's obstruction.. Conduct and carry yourself in a pleasant and corgile manner, and you avoid situations such as this.. GREAT job LT.

Marshal @ 2/27/2013 4:56 AM

I think there is more to the edited video because it doesn't show the begining of the incident that the police are there for just the begining of the slap incident so we don't know for sure what led up to the slap but still isn't a proper way to handle it. Here is a great quote I heard on tv a few weeks ago "Because we are given a badge and a gun cops are held to a higher standard BUT we are all recruited from the human race."

Brad C. @ 2/27/2013 5:02 AM

Marshal I like it.. Awesome quote

Juan 10-13 @ 2/27/2013 5:05 AM

Right and IF she or whom ever wanted to intentionally throw acid,insecticide etc....then what? I you're not an LEO you really CAN NOT comment on how the LT was feeling. There are a lot of smart a***** out there who thrive on heckling and inciting the Police just to get a reaction. Hey I.A.'re not a real cop or one of us so keep you shoe-fly remarks to yourself! Thank you very much!Kudos to you LT.!

Captain O @ 2/27/2013 7:59 AM

I hate to admit it but if you watch the first 3 seconds of this video you can distinctly see a Male in a black T and shorts wave what appears to be a water bottle spraying the contents at the police. This gets the Females attention because she turns towards the perp and the police turn to see her movement. Her only mistake was to hastily retreat as if she had done something wrong. I won't judge the Lt. because it looked like something had already happened in a crowded street and they were surrounded by potentially hostile sympathizers. But he definitely got the wrong one.

Andy Agajanian @ 2/27/2013 12:53 PM

When I studied defensive tactics we had a number of techniques to control and handcuff a suspect. As to women, none of the techniques began with sucker punching the woman. Has this officer ... twice the size of the woman ... ever learned professional-level techniques? Or is he just a lazy dumb... who finds it easier to punch someone than be professional?

Really? @ 2/27/2013 12:54 PM

For that officer to say he was "Swiping at a beer" is a pathetic lie. He assaulted that woman which is very clear on the video. I am saddened he was not at least written up. He didnt deserve to be fired.

Ima Leprechaun @ 2/27/2013 2:23 PM

In a frame by frame progression she appears to be carrying a cup in her right hand and as she turns away she no longer has the cup in her right hand. But most of her actions are completely blocked by the Officer in the foreground. The Lt was facing her when this act happened in the middle of all the blue shirts so if I had to guess he saw exactly what she did. Too bad the video documentation was from a poor angle. Most Police documentation personnel take several vantage points to record these group activities to avoid confusion in these cases. I don't even know who took this video or why they never moved to follow the action. It may have been a local TV crew but the police should record these demonstrations just to protect themselves from false or exaggerated claims.

Ja Tu @ 2/28/2013 7:39 AM

The very first few seconds of the video shows the girl off to the left of the screen dancing in an agressive manner, like she just instigated or escallated the there is more to the story than what the video is showing for sure, she could have been there for 10 minutes provoking the officers, maybe she did throw her beer on them earlier and the Lt. thought she did it again when it was not her....also I watched the video in slow motion and zoomed in and I can clearly see his eye focus when he swings is not on her face but on the bottle in her hand, it appears both his hand as he swings through and the bottle in her hand strike her face. The fact is clear, there is more to this story than what this video appears to show to the untrained eye.

JB @ 3/4/2013 8:05 AM

Seeing the Lieutenant punch (yes it was a punch - you can see his fist when his arm is fully extended) a woman like that makes me sick. You can be angry someone threw water on you, you can be angry someone used profane or slanderous language, but you don't attack a defenseless woman from behind because you are angry over such things. Acting out of rage is unprofessional. For shame - you should be fired! Civil suit is a slam dunk, get ready to pay.

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