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Sovereign Citizen TASERed In Courthouse

Robert Peterson, 21, was TASERed by a court bailiff after he refused repeated commands to stop filming near a hallway in Kootenai County court. He claims he's exempt from statues and regulations. Read the full story here.

September 18, 2012

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Bill @ 9/18/2012 3:35 PM

This moron doesn't even realize the reason he is allowed to have these views in the U.S.A. is due to the U.S. Constitution... If you don't like it here, leave.

Jim A @ 9/18/2012 7:14 PM

I was not able to pull up the full story and video is a little faulty - no sound - so I do not know the whole deal. I disagree with the "if you do not like it, leave" comment, but agree with the comment about the Constitution. I say if you do not like it, change it through legal means. Vote.

A "Free Man" does not have the right to inflict his opinions on the issues. The Supreme Court has the final say and they do not agree with the so-called legal opinions of the constitutionalist "Free Men".

But tasing for filming might be a little overboard. (Understand I could not read the whole story or could not hear the sound.) You have proven his slanted viewpoint. He already The Government is a police state operated by corrupted politicians and the police department is run by thugs who support the corrupted politicians.

rob @ 9/18/2012 7:36 PM

the guy is obviously a dbag looking for a problem. However the tasing did look like a bit much based on the video alone. seizing the camera would have been much easier and less long term problem.

JOE B @ 9/18/2012 7:44 PM


Cecilio Méndez @ 9/18/2012 7:45 PM

A sovereing a**hole acting as a birdbrain & got several thousand volts into him? Hilarious!

BF @ 9/18/2012 8:40 PM


Sal @ 9/18/2012 9:01 PM

The guy filming it was an idiot and obviously wanted to get a rise out of someone. However, the bailiff was roped in and acted overboard. Enforce the rules - don't let him in with a camera. But don't taser a passive aggressive guy looking to make a name for himself. If you decide to arrest him for battering the bailiff (an acceptable arrest) then take him into custody. I suspect the idiot would have put up little resistance. Professionalism always. A taser in that scenario was unacceptable.

Darkh2ocop @ 9/18/2012 11:21 PM

The reason that agency's have gone to the use of Tasers, is to reduce the chance of injury to the officer involved in an altercation with a subject. The camera in the suspects hand can be a hell of a weapon. (workmen's comp) The last thing you want outside of the court room is a fight. Taser him and it's done and over in seconds. Just as the video shows. Also if you notice the officer follows most agency's use of force continuum's. Presence, verbal commands, empty hand or soft hand, then the Taser / baton / closed hand / kicks. What is the quickest with the least likely-hood of the officer getting injured? TASER.

Robert Nichols @ 9/18/2012 11:32 PM

Bwahahaha. Darwin candidate.

desertfuzz @ 9/18/2012 11:42 PM

HA! Love it. These "sovereign citizens" need to wake up from fantasyland. For those saying the Taser was unreasonable, would they prefer a brawl in the lobby? Or perhaps a lobby full of pepper spray? There was obviously nothing that could be said that would get this moron to comply. Tasers get the job done quick, when the ride is over there is almost always compliance, which is the objective. It's not in our job description to duke it out with non compliant subjects and risk getting injured ourselves. We have tools and we use them, it may not be pretty, but that's why it's called USING FORCE.

DJ @ 9/19/2012 2:53 AM

Well put Darkh20Cop! Use of force Continuum covered. This guy to me was acting like so many of the Open Carry types with a camera. They are going out of their way to create situations where they can bait cops and try to entrap them. The moment the guy tried to push his way into the hallway passed the Officers, he proved his intent and was directly making physical contact. Felony assult of a Law Enforcement Officer. Bam.....Two probes, 5 seconds of pain and the big mouth with the camera is crying for them to stop!

Doc @ 9/19/2012 3:48 AM

For those that say the Baliff was extreme in his reaction, keep in mind that people of this same group shot 4 officers in my area, killing 2 of them, these people are Extreme and can be a real danger to deal with. Like this guy, they don't like getting told no and will often resist. That man could have either stayed out of the Court room or left his camera with a family member. He did it to himself, when he attempted to push his way past the Baliff. They should also charge him with Aggravated Dumb A$$ .

Doc @ 9/19/2012 3:56 AM

DJ, people with guns don't bother me, nor do open carry or CCW laws, those people don't bother me at all, must of the public are decent people.
I respect the 2nd Amendment rights of the Individual, it's the violent criminals that I have a probem with, I'm a police officer in Louisiana.

Jack @ 9/19/2012 4:00 AM

I'll second Darkh2ocop. Use of force continuum was professionally and calmly covered. It's a shame if your audio isn't working for this...

Nichole @ 9/19/2012 4:10 AM

What a complete a**hole. I believe that the bailiff was within his rights and acted accordingly. He remained calm, issued several verbal commands, gently held the guy at bay...

From the get-go, Robert Peterson was looking for trouble. And he found it. I liken it to the West Borough Baptist idiots. They know what they're doing is wrong and they do everything within their power to stay on the legal side of things so they are untouchable. It doesn't make it right.

bfelton51 @ 9/19/2012 5:30 AM

I could watch that over and over again!

Bill B @ 9/19/2012 6:30 AM

Sovereign Citizens are a REAL threat to Law Enforcement personnel every where. The passive aggressive people are the ones that fool you and will get you killed. They lull you into a sense of "They won't do anything". He should have done as he was told and there wouldn't have been a problem. I am a police officer in Missouri and have dealt with the Sovereigns before and I am here to tell you, they will get you killed. GOOD JOB for the Bailiff. We believe that the TASER stops the threat and reduces the chances of injury to our officers.

fct @ 9/19/2012 6:34 AM

I can't find anything wrong with the bailiffs' actions, and my person can't stop watching this over and over. As a matter of fact, I thought the bailiffs did a great job of remaining calm for such a long time, and giving so much verbal direction.

Vince @ 9/19/2012 7:12 AM

The LEO used the minimum, necessary, reasonable and justifiable use of force. The UOF continuum was followed as well. However, his departments policies may or may not also be aligned with the industries standards. Use of force doctrine has changed markedly over the years, looking for less then lethal tools for LEO's and minimizing injuries to both the LEO and perps, ergo the TASER comes into play. If the TASER was not used, UOF would've definitely escalated and the likelihood of injury using conventional methods may have occurred.

donutplz @ 9/19/2012 7:41 AM

hahahhahahhah That is so funny!!! He has no clue! Yes I agree I think he needs to do another video because I too dont think he figued it out yet.

donutplz @ 9/19/2012 7:45 AM

For the record neither Bailiff did anything wrong. I do agree these people will kill you. I bet the next time they see him he will be armedto "protect" himself.

RC @ 9/19/2012 8:00 AM

In the "old days" we would would have just "tap" him on the head or knee with a Nightstick or Kel-Light...


Mike Baughman @ 9/19/2012 8:46 AM

Peterson is just another ignorant fool looking for his 15 minutes. If you were born in ANY state, you are an American citizen. Not Afro, German, anything American. You are an AMERICAN. If you don't like it, grab a plane to where ever you want and have a nice day. This guy is some kind of idiot and got some of what he deserved.

Joel Dorr @ 9/19/2012 8:52 AM

What an idiot. He's claiming he's exempt U.S. laws because he's a "sovereign" citizen but choosing to include himself on the rights given to him by the same entity that he's sovereign from.

CPD @ 9/19/2012 9:38 AM

Awesome! this was a 50000 Volt wake up call to the idiot!

Kevin Bradford @ 9/19/2012 9:46 AM

Sovereign Citizen's preach all kinds of stupid shit about not having to be goverened or following laws of the State, Federal and local Government's etc. yet they still want to enjoy the comforts and conviences of average American citizens. Double standard dipshits like a few other groups we have to deal with. He was told, and still tried to push his way in causing a disturbance for this court. This was handled in as quiet and expedious manner as possible with no injury to the suspect or officers. I say job well done. If you don't want to comply with the laws of normal civilization then go live in the forrest, desert or mountains. I would expect any butthead trying to get a camera into a courtroom and acting in this manner to be treated the same way.

Jim O @ 9/19/2012 10:25 AM

Jim A. You obviously do not know many police officers. We are a country of laws and there are consequences for not following those laws. I know many police officers and police departments and ont one is run or staffed by "Thugs". This idot was given several lawful orders which he CHOSE to disregard. His consequence was a 5 second ride on the lightning train...any one else...All aboard!

Joseph Jeanes, II @ 9/19/2012 10:57 AM

The law at the civil level is kindness. The person, Peterson, was very confused. The pushy behavior would have been a problem anywhere. I noticed the Idaho personalities were extremely polite and professional. Mr. Peterson is very lucky that he was simply with people that were no longer amused. All that was needed was "wait in line" and get a press permit for a public court. The terminology he was using was in the wrong forum and though has its place, no one would have been familiar without of range talk that is more theory than what real time is about. What he is talking about is mooted but not practical. Lawful public behavior is far different than just legal. At some point, he stepped over the line. What would have been next as he goes into more verbal aggression? Let us assume; we all know the law, how do we go about getting paid and how do we provide for it? In these weird times, the money was not for the guy, and they were paid. He really did not have enough money to say what he was saying. Just like when Donald Trump is on David Letterman and Dave puts his hand over the microphone while Donald is talking and laughs at him and says, "Donald, you do not have enough money to say that." It is almost a cute story about the things going on today. At least, he is alive to tell the story - this could have been an untold event in some jurisdictions - if the world blows up once it only affects you? LOL

captmidnight @ 9/19/2012 2:04 PM

Another misuse of the Tazer. It is intended to be used as a less lethal means oF SELF-DEFENSE, not COMPLIANCE.

using it for compliance leaves the officer and dept open to civil liability for excessive force.

I didnt see where the Baliff was justified in a claim of self defense.

Peterson clearly should have been arrested for violation of the law.

However, the arrest could have been effected differently.

Use of the Tazers for compliance always leads to more legal trouble for the officer than the perp.

S.R. Garcia @ 9/19/2012 2:15 PM

Outstanding !! These officers deserve an Academy Award...

DAve Marshall @ 9/19/2012 5:51 PM

Outstanding! I laughed until I hurted on that one. "Let the record show AARRRGGHHHHH"


Fed Cop @ 9/20/2012 11:14 AM

Since he doesn't recognize the United States, then he shouldn't recognize the US Constitution. Since he said he doesn't fall under the rules and regulations of the USA, then he can't use the constitution and the Bill of Rights ("freedom of the press") to do what he wants. ZZZZZZAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!! Ride the Lightening.

Fed Cop @ 9/20/2012 11:22 AM

Hey captmidnight, REALLY? The knucklehead was none compliant, attempting to force his way past the officers (battery on LEO), and confront the officers to affect a physical confrontation. You use LTL to prevent injury, and to affect the arrest. You don't wait until someone is hurt (self defense) to activate your device. PLUS, he was violating the privacy of all the citizens in the lobby, and witness/defendant/plaintiff waiting area.

Shawn @ 9/20/2012 7:39 PM

I watched that like 10 times! Awesome. "Step back"...BAM! He went from bad a$$ to a baby in less time than the 5 second TASER cycle. That is the only way to deal with these people.

Jerome @ 9/20/2012 10:47 PM

The man committed no battery. He used no force. Was he obnoxious? Yes, of course, but that isn't a crime. He was no threat to the bailiffs and in fact had stepped back after being blocked. He was not warned that he might be tased. The fact is, the one who should be prosecuted is the bailiff who tased him. Tasers are abused and this is one of the worst abuses I have ever saw of a law enforcement officer in regards to a taser. The bailiff should have been fired. I know though that the prosecutor will side with the LEO, as they almost always do no matter what. Their loyalty isn't to the public or the law but to cops, no matter how much the cop is in the wrong.

Darkh2ocop @ 9/21/2012 5:29 AM

Jerome, Go down to NC and try to push your way past an Officer. NC defines assault as the unwanted touching of another. And unlike a number of northern states you do not need to cause pain to an officer to be charged with assault. And by trying to force his way into the courtroom, It met the all the requirements for assault on a LEO in NC.

TexasDispatcher @ 9/21/2012 10:43 AM

Same here in TX Dark...Simple Assault is defined as, and I quote, "Sec. 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse; (2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.(b) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a Class A misdemeanor, except that the offense is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed against:(1) a person the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is lawfully discharging an official duty, or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant;...he'd be facing a 3rd degree felony here in TX for that!

mwp72 @ 9/22/2012 1:34 PM

That was AWESOME!!! That'll teach him to run his smart mouth and play little word games with people who are trying to do their job.

Dan @ 9/24/2012 9:06 AM

Joseph Jeanes II: What the hell are you on? You are an idiot that is talking nonsense! The others are right. These so-called "Free Men" are dangerous. They cannot pick and choose what rights they want to have and what laws do not apply to them. The video is hilarious.

S.S. @ 9/24/2012 1:32 PM

The tazer was totally acceptable, and called for. The so-called sovereign citizens can be very dangerous.You just never know. They like to act like they are above the law, but they are not. This guy got what was coming to him. GOOD JOB.

Tom @ 9/26/2012 10:58 AM

Actually when he tried to force his way in and made contact with the officers at that time hehad commited assault and the officers had every right to tase him without putting themselves in any further danger

Grownup @ 9/27/2012 6:15 AM

All citizens of any country (even idoits who make up their own nation in their heads and print out id's on their home computers) are subject to the jurisidiction of the country that they are in. So, even if we live in pretend land where you can call yourself a citizen of your own country, when in the jurisdiction of another country you must follow their laws.

Regardless, since we are not in the pretend world of Sovereign Citizens, we all vote for politicians, that pass laws. All societies since the stone age have had rules and regulations for conduct and most are much more unfair and draconian than those that exist in the US today. To pretend that you arent subject to the law just because you dont want to be is juvenile, insipid, and ignorant.
While many of us dont like the overreaching effects of the government in our personal lives, most adults will understand the hightened security needs in a court of law and the officers duty to enforce those needs. Also, from this video and this individual's rude conduct towards individuals simply trying to do their job, it is obvious that his intention from the start was to be disruptive. I guess that's ok when you live in pretend land.

Adam @ 9/27/2012 12:20 PM

This guy is such a dick.... No, that is an insult to dicks. This dude is a moron. An absolute moron. And he isn't alone because some posts here agree with him.

Dennis @ 9/27/2012 1:58 PM

That was awesome. The taser was very effective and no officer was injured trying to take this man into custody. Good job guys.

Extra Strength @ 10/8/2012 8:21 PM

The behavior displayed by the subject who was tased clearly demonstrated the intent to violate the court regulations, he was instructed to step back, and he rushed the officers, clearly stating that he was defying their lawful instructions. Stupid is, as stupid does.

The second thing to realize is that the movement of persons who claim sovereignship from the USA, practice and perform distractions just like this before attacking and killing officers, frequently working in groups and family pairs. He was not alone that day, and he represented a predictable threat to the safety of the prosecutor, the officers, and the court.

Chad Scott @ 11/24/2012 8:33 AM

Let us drop all the hate, however some county courts allow cameras and some don't. This one didn't he should have went in with a notepad, and possibly voice recorder. I appreciate his citizen activism, but he needs to study just a tad bit more. I do think cameras should be allowed in the court house.

SizzleSound @ 12/4/2012 7:24 PM

I don't think I have ever been so happy to see a turd get tazed lol. These Sovereign Citizen people are morons.

Great job guys!

anonymous @ 12/15/2012 1:23 PM

wow, another example of overexessive use of force by a member of the law society, i think a couple people need to do a little bit of research into what the sovereign citizens movement is about, and how the Corporation of the district of columbia government society has thrown a blanket over the freedoms of the human beings who live in these once great united states of america, who are not 'people' as described by the law society as
"Person Definition:
An entity recognized by the law as separate and independent, with legal rights and existence including the ability to sue and be sued, to sign contracts, to receive gifts, to appear in court either by themselves or by lawyer and, generally, other powers incidental to the full expression of the entity in law."

so read your law books "officers of the LAW"

then maybe you will start behaving appropriately as officers of the PEACE. which is what you ought to be thinking of yourself as....

JB @ 1/3/2013 10:10 PM

The man was in the wrong but he was also correct.. He is the type that give other Sovereign Citizens a bad rap, he went there to make a point which I don't agree with, there is a time and place for that, he choose to challenge. The stun gun was a little excessive and if I'm not mistaken, the officer is under investigation.

cfren @ 1/8/2013 2:43 PM

so funny i watched it thrice

jon @ 1/10/2013 3:54 PM

Unbelievable. And these are the ignorant, cocky, in your face "Peace officers" that are supposed to "protect and serve" jesus we are so screwed. On every police website hosting this video the comments have been angry, mocking, ignorant and just plain sad. This makes me sick that you ignorant morons get a kick out of citizens standing up for themselves. You enjoy the thought of your boot on the throat of the american people. Sickening.

Brian @ 1/25/2013 6:27 PM

They aren't just a threat to police. I'm dealing with one I worked for. I didn't know much about them at the time, but over time the things this guy was saying were just getting weirder and weirder. I was the first person he and his girlfriend hired for their new business, so I said I didn't mind being paid without withholdings for awhile. It's wasn't like I minded not having taxes taken out, but without going into details I knew the business would need loans after awhile so legitimizing it was something I stressed was important to me continuing to work for them. Anyway, I walked out after several months when the electric was turned off in a new building. Not exactly sure why, but he kept refusing to give the electric company identification. He also lost it for awhile after the election and I had figured out just what he was about then. He refused me, and my girlfriend who had quit in disgust a week before, our last paychecks. So we've filed a complaint with the labor board and I've received some email from him with very interesting punctuation, and threats to have me arrested for . . . well lets just say it was a long list of nouns. I think extortion was in there somewhere. But I am so sick of seeing crap like this I just plan on having as much fun as I can. He started hiding his car so I couldn't get the plates (asked for on the labor board filing). I found it the other week :) I just needed to vent after seeing this.

IGAME33 @ 8/1/2013 6:57 PM

IF hes a Sov Cit "exempt from rules" then he is trespassing on private property. That gov facility is public property only to U.S. citizens n residents not to jackasses claiming exempt from rules.

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