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Fla. Trooper Detained Miami Cop at Gunpoint


A Florida Highway Patrol trooper chased down off-duty Miami Police Officer Fausto Lopez and detained him at gunpoint, after clocking him driving 120 mph in his cruiser.

October 29, 2011
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Tags: Off-Duty Incidents, Catching Speeders, Miami PD, Florida Highway Patrol, Thin Blue Line


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Off. Wes Esper @ 10/30/2011 3:43 AM

Another Florida State Patrol officer who I am sure is perefect and does no wrong.Fourty one years as a police officer I run into a bunch who thinks there better than everyone else.

R @ 10/31/2011 8:09 AM

My thoughts exactly, only the names are changed. What gives the off-duty Miami cop, in a taxpayer-funded cruiser, the right to break the law and endanger taxpaying citizens, who by the way pay your salary? Oh, he's a cop so he's above the law? Is that how it works? The Trooper was doing her job! How dare you speak ill of her! Judging by your spelling, you're just an ignorant tool of the crooked system. It's police officers like you who make the good ones look bad. There's a name for "public servants" like you! You're a disgrace to the uniform; didn't you take an oath? Your attitude displays a gross violation of that oath; how do I file a grievance to have you removed from the force?

James Fitzpatrick @ 10/31/2011 9:20 AM

Wes,

Perfect not perefect. Forty not fourty. Your police reports are probably nice to read. I feel sorry for your supervisor who has to spell and grammer check them and send them back to you numerous times for re-writes. In the future, please spare the rest of us your holy-than-thou attitude. It's jackasses like this Miami cop who give everyone in law enforcement a bad name.

R @ 10/31/2011 11:25 AM

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank each and every officer who takes their oath seriously, as they should. It shows integrity.

For those who need reminding:

On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution,
my community and the agency I serve.

As with umpires and referees, yours is often a thankless job. I for one acknowledge and appreciate that, so here I write.

A huge part of the 99%, you guys don't need people like these, who've proven they're not worthy of wearing the uniform, to sully your image. Should any one of you through no fault of your own lose your job and in three weeks' time find yourself homeless, you may find yourself joining in with the OWS demonstrators.

Please remember your oath, particularly in these trying times...and especially note the order in which it is written:

I will always uphold the constitution...my community...and the agency I serve.

There's a reason the Constitution was listed first.

Peace.

Brian @ 10/31/2011 11:28 AM

Good for her. Nobody is above the law, especially police officers. In addition to being arrested for reckless endangerment (which is EXACTLY what this is), he should be fired for being an idiot.

R @ 10/31/2011 11:29 AM

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deportega @ 10/31/2011 2:29 PM

They're both turds! She didn't have to arrest him and cause "BAD BLOOD" between the two departments. All she had to do is detain him and call a Miami PD Supervisor out to the scene, and cite him.

They're both turds

R @ 10/31/2011 2:51 PM

@ deportega

Anyone else driving like that, especially not pulling over but actually evading, would've been thrown to the ground and arrested.

Are you crazy?

The cop clearly abused his authority and violated his oath, and should be kicked off the force.

Texas Deputy Sheriff @ 10/31/2011 6:40 PM

There was a better way to handle this without putting him in cuffs. He might be the one that's saves her life one day. I agree, she should have called his supervisor and wrote him. I would love to see someone take my weapon while im in uniform. I train for that!!!

Erick @ 10/31/2011 6:54 PM

First of all you all sound like a lynch mob. Talking about firing a police officer that is a disgrace to the uniform etc... Do we even know why he (the Miami Officer) was driving that fast? Was his wife in the hospital going into labor? Or was he just being young and stupid? We don't know do we? What we do know, those of us who are old school police officers, is that the blue line is mighty thin these days. Cops arresting other cops is not unusual these days, and if you ask me its a GOD D!@# shame. The Trooper should have called the Officers supervisor and left it alone if the Officer wasn't under the influence. I am very surprised that he allowed her to cuff him. There are plenty of options that would be better for both the agencies and the officers.

Anon @ 10/31/2011 6:56 PM

In my state this trooper could be charged with deadly conduct and official misconduct (for making a "speeding" arrest). She should get "remedial" training on when to pull her weapon. Just another example of failure to train...

John @ 10/31/2011 7:28 PM

Typical of a FHP Trooper, aka taillight chaser. But when you stop them the 1st thing they do is whip out the badge and want professional courtesy but they don't extend it to other officers. The problem with most FHP is that they could not hack it as real police officers and have to settle to be FHP with low pay and even lower morale.

Most of you are idiots @ 10/31/2011 7:28 PM

Who in the hell pulls over another cruiser...seriously? As @deportega politely said it, they're both turds. Putting cuffs on him roadside is ridiculous. He probably wasn't fleeing, just wondering why in the hell he's getting pulled over in a marked cruiser. That video should have accidentally disappeared.

Defrustrated @ 10/31/2011 7:30 PM

It a marked patrol vehicle. That is an absolute disgrace!!!!
We need to protect each other not try burn each other for stupid BS!!!!!
We are all brothers and sisters in this world. Think aboth how you will feel when figthing with a perp and the stupid traffic violation you wrote a warrior that would jump in to save your life.
What a disgrace!!!!!! Unbelievable

Rj @ 10/31/2011 7:51 PM

I saw on fox news he was late for an off duty overtime assignment. He was not arrested, and later released on a summons. His dept stated they will decide on his punishment if any pending the traffic charges. This short video does not show the trooper in pursuit for 14 miles at speeds up to 120 mph. The officer was weaving in and out of traffic and the trooper had her lights and siren on. The officer slowed down and sped up several times. I am a police officer, and he was wrong for driving so fast. Im sure if he just pulled over at the begining, she probably would just told him to slow down. Instead he decided to disregard a law enforcement officers signal to stop.

popo @ 10/31/2011 8:14 PM

OMG what has the world come to? Both are dumbasses in my opinion... Drawing a weapon on another brother/sister for this is just stupid and thank God it ended up the way it did without tragedy. I don’t know all the details, however, our own brothers/sisters who put their own moral high ground above the others they work with and even the citizens they patrol are just as dangerous as the next. This is not Serprico. We’re talking about speeding. Those without the same sin and has never exceeded the limit please cast that first stone at me…. Just plain stupid!

Bob @ 10/31/2011 8:21 PM

It's fun to bat around ideas, but, as Erick said, we do not have all the information. Although the video begs for commentary, I think we should should retain some humility and just say what we would do, rather than declaring that we can make a sound, comprehensive, final judgement of the situation before it is investigated. I think we all dislike it when news commentators show at a single video of a police action and broadcast a snap judgement. Moreover, I don't think it is useful when discussing ideas to insult or call each other names. This quote from the associated article struck the right note, I think: Miami PD's Commander Delrich ... said he wouldn't second-guess the trooper's decision to detain Officer Lopez at gunpoint.

"They have their procedures, and we won't Monday-morning-quarterback them," Commander Moss said. "It would be inappropriate to speculate on why they did what they did." Rather than condemn a person's motives (why) or intelligence, just say what you think would be a better thing to do in that situation.

True Blue @ 10/31/2011 8:50 PM

FL Troopers; the worst in the nation, Good luck waiting for your backups w/o city cops. No brotherhood.

Andrew @ 10/31/2011 9:52 PM

Talk about cause bad blood between agencies, thats SUPER TROOPERS for you always trying to be big shot traffic cops.so much for just detain him and call shift supervisors and let them handle that. talk about a stupid response putting him under arrest. I see super troopers in my area here daily speeding like that on our highways just to get to their office or coffee stop!! and im sure she's never done anything wrong in her career..ha ha

D. A. Goad @ 10/31/2011 10:33 PM

As a retired veteran and administrative LEO of 32 years, I see each side of the comments as posted; however, the Miami Officer should have slowed down and honored the Florida Trooper's indication for him to stop. While the police unit could have been stolen that was obviously not the case once the Trooper confronted the uniformed Officer in question. I additionally understand the Trooper's caution in ensuring the Officer was in fact legitimate on-duty or off-duty. Upon realizing she had stopped an off-duty fellow police officer her next step was to obtain the officer's duty station and immediate supervisor's contact information. After reporting the officer to his superiors it would be understandable that a citation was forthcoming for his observed actions. Conversely, I don't see the need for handcuffing the fellow officer and or removing his service weapon. In that regard I believe the Trooper utilized her authority to a higher degree than warranted. I mention this since there was no immediate threat once the Trooper realized who she was dealing with during the stop. Those of us in public safety certainly have a higher standard to uphold and this Miami Officer was, for whatever reason, violating that benchmark. Absent knowledge for the Officer's behavior in this incident his actions will certainly be adjudicated in court and a further decision rendered by his agency. Hopefully if any "Bad Blood" is created or spilt with this incident it can be quickly addressed and harmony restored. On a positive note, thank you all for serving with professionalism and honor - stay safe!

Glen @ 11/1/2011 1:51 AM

Ok once she actually got the cruiser stopped and realized that there was an officer operating it in full uniform the situation should not of escalated into what we saw. I can understand her being a bit p/o'd if she actually thought he was trying to elude her which i feel he was not. Giving him a piece of her mind in a more rational way would of been much better. Taking his info and forwarding it to his command in ref to the incident would of also been another way if she needed to take it further. But handcuffs... really, a bit much im sorry. we only have each other out here why start bad blood between agencies..Just my opinion..

Real cops wear brown @ 11/1/2011 3:04 AM

First of all whether her actions here are right or wrong, i would sure hope any back-up she needed from whatever surrounding agency would be human enough to not concern themself with her giving a citation to one from their agency.

Second did numb nuts there in blue not have a radio in his car, could he have not radioed the trooper or his dispatch to let them know he was a cop?

I personally don't agree with someone going anywhere at 120mph without a pretty good reason, but if you want to put yourself at risk over being a few minutes late, more power to ya. I also don't agree with her handling of the situation after she saw he was in uniform... did she really think if the car was stolen that they would have just decided to pull over for her?

There is little to no excuses for what Lopez was doing, and anyone who says we all drive a buck twenty on and off duty for no good reason needs to be slapped. With that said I am not real happy with the handcuffing and pat down crap either

Hank @ 11/1/2011 3:21 AM

Jeez, people! Calm down.

First of all, he wasn't arrested, he was cited and released(read the story).

He was on his way to his part time job-definitely NOT a reason to be driving 120mph.

Terminated? No. Cited-absolutely.

For those of you who don't wear a badge for a living, put your crosses away for another day.

mike @ 11/1/2011 3:33 AM

Maybe he was practicing for high-speed persuits..practice makes perfect..everyone does something stupid at one point or another,doesn't matter. If your a cap or a home depot employe, we r all human and not perfect..I think he should get punished but not like that

Steve @ 11/1/2011 6:11 AM

As has been noted, there was bad on both sides here. First the moron driving the Miami squad. Ok I have a led foot. Never been to 120mph, but I have a led foot. I agree that if he had stopped right away, this probably would have ended differently. But instead he would start to speed up, exibiting the behavior of someone that possibly could have stolen the squad. In that sense I don't even have a problem with the trooper approaching with gun out. Thou if she were that concerned would not a felony stop been more appropriate? Once she determined that it was a legit fellow officer the weapon was put away. WHY the need to handcuff and remove the officer's weapon. Call his supervisor issue the citations and be done with it....Handcuffing and removing his weapon was way over the top

Kevin @ 11/1/2011 6:11 AM

The officer was wrong. The Trooper did what she did legally... But The letter of th law verses the intent of the law. As a retired Trooper from Pennsylvania, I would have called base and had them check with his agency to determine why he was speeding and then depending on the reason, stop and had a supervisor from the FHP ad the other agency come to the scene. ... no one would be embarassed and the Miami agency would be beholden to the FHP...Job done...job done right....no one's cheerios peed in....

John @ 11/1/2011 6:56 AM

So much for the brotherhood. 30years on the job and every day I see something that makes me shake my head. I think it could have been handled differently. Driving to fast is not a good practices, I think the evading was a little far fetched. Most of us would have stopped right away. Chew him out, call the supervisor and let them handle it internally. The crap that's going to fall on both officers was unnecessary.

Cap @ 11/1/2011 7:34 AM

She should have done this. He should have done that. We were not there. Only they were there. The facts will be revealed eventually, but how can we judge. Is that not what we as peace officers complain about most? "Monday morning quarterbacking"?

J1613R @ 11/1/2011 7:45 AM

Taking this at face value a few things come to mind:

1. Did the trooper think the marked police car was stolen?

2. Cruisers pulling over marked cruisers looks very strange...unless the trooper thought the cruiser was stolen for some reason...

3. Why did she arrest him? It seems like a really harsh reaction to what is basically speeding or reckless driving...did he have an attitude? I understand and comprehend the traditional values of law and order knowing none of us is above the law...but arresting a uniformed officer in a marked police car??? Unless the guy is wasted or high, or just a complete asshole, is seems to be a bit of an overreaction that will cause nothing but bad blood and animosity between the two departments...

4. It seems to be a better course of action would be to immediately inform your supervisor and let the officers supervisor know immediately what you have...

I don't mean to second guess, and the officer who was speeding was wrong, but jeezus...

usmcvet0331 @ 11/1/2011 7:49 AM

I am a little confused by the video, sound may have helped. It looks to me like he was in a unmarked police car and in uniform. Handcuffing him was ridiculous. Chewing his ass and writing him a ticket would have been appropriate.

Sheriff's Captain @ 11/1/2011 8:00 AM

This isn't about creating "bad blood" between agencies, it isn't about some insane notion of officer safety and gun retention...this is about one individual being far over the limit of professional conduct while representing his agency, the public and ultimately himself. Driving at 120 miles per hour is not a speeding infraction where everyone shakes hands and laughs about the event. This is, in most jurisdictions, a criminal act and based on the dash-cam video idiotic beyond words. Let's focus on the event at hand and stop thinking that just because we wear a badge that we are somehow elevated above those very laws that we all swore an oath to uphold. The Trooper was correct in what she did, how she handled the situation and this officer earned whatever discipline may come his way. The "what if" possibilities involved in what his driving may have caused if not stopped (by the involved Trooper) make this an excellent traffic contact and the Trooper deserves credit...not ridicule. Again, focus on the event. Take away the fact that there was a police vehicle (driving without emergency equipment at 120 miles per hour) being operated by a commissioned officer involved. Imagine this as any other car from a delivery van to an SUV. What would you do when presented with that set of circumstances? What you would probably do is call out a pursuit/chase over your radio, activate your emergency equipment and eventually (you all noted I hope that the police vehicle did not pull-over right away?) stop the car. How would you approach the vehicle? Would you have taken time to consider tactical advantages...had your pistol out and ready...been at an elevated state of tactical awareness? This is an event that can shape each of us in positive way "if" we view it in the totality of circumstances presented. For those who cannot detach themselves from the emotion of your job and see that...you might consider it time to find a new employment position. My opinion.

Rick @ 11/1/2011 8:05 AM

She did the right thing after seeing a crime being committed. he was off duty; no reason to call a supervisor. Until she knew what was going on, it was reasonable to detain him in cuffs; there have been many PD imposters in Florida. When I was a USCG tactical officer in Miami, an imposter actually bluffed his way into a briefing and addressed a "brother" agency on the comaraderie that they shared. A month later, he went to jail when he was discovered as an imposter.

Lawman94 @ 11/1/2011 8:11 AM

As Law Enforcement Officers we need to have a watchful eye on every move we make. Yes shoud've, could've, would've might be better but we werent on scene now were we? I just hope both Officers learned from this encounter and all the Officers that watch this video please take from it what you will. The blue line is there but it's THIN.. Stay Safe

jarhead255 @ 11/1/2011 9:00 AM

Why does an officer need to run 120 unles he's in pursuit, we are enforcers of the law not the breakers.

OK @ 11/1/2011 9:32 AM

Not withstanding the fact the police officer was wrong in speeding. I DO NOT condown his actions. But the FHP Officer was told repeatedly to cancel the pursuit by her superiors, the vehicle number and tag had already been recorded. She herself endagered others by travileing that fast. I would never think of pulling a gun on a traffic stop that was dispicable. I think she over used her authority as well and should be reprimaded for endagering others as well as not listening to superiors

JM @ 11/1/2011 9:39 AM

The supervisor should have a chat with his trooper about leaving cover to approach with weapon drawn. If the trooper believed there was such a threat/potential threat, then she should have gotten on the PA, and call the subject back to her. Time is on the trooper's side. There's no rush to get up to the car. Back off, call for back-up, and think tactically. Officers' impatience gets them killed or injured.

Chief Tom W. Clark @ 11/1/2011 9:47 AM

When one Police Officer betray's his/her oath of office, it tarnishes the bagde of every other Officer who has integrity, ethics and a moral core!! These Law Eforcement Officers who seem to believe that there is a "Professional Courtisy" should find a less honorable career. In my state, professional courtisy is defined as "Not placing another Officer in a position like this one in the first place. It is not holier than thou... is is pride and honor, intergirty and ethics. The Officer, or any Officer for that matter, who took offense of the Officer detaining this violator is most likey one who doesn't see a problem with violating the law... on or off duty!!

Jane Simone @ 11/1/2011 10:23 AM

I am revolted by the attitude that the drunken, speeding, reckless driver should not have been cuffed or arrested. Apparently some of my colleagues believe in two sets of laws: one for citizens, and the other for govt. employees.

I am not aware of any law that says a govt paycheck or a badge or a gun ... or possession of a cruiser ... gives you the license to endanger and murder other people by driving drunk. If such a "cops only" law exists, please provide a pinpoint cite.

The double standard that some colleagues advocate creates anger and disgust and bad feelings against cops, and rightly so.

Another issue is that letting the drunkard off without arrest and formal proceedings makes it more likely he will drive drunk and kill in the future. I also wonder how it would look to a jury when they find out that the killer did the same idiocy numerous times in the past, but his "buddies in blue" gave him a free ride.

Mark @ 11/1/2011 10:58 AM

I agree with Erick. We should have all the facts before we type out our judgements. Yes, he was speeding and at 120mph that is dangerous. The trooper should have detained him and had his supervisor respond and have him be formerly written up. Handcuffing him, taking his gun away and putting him in the back seat of a patrol car was a bit extreme. We afford violent criminals more rights why not give a fellow officer a bit of respect. In the end the only thing that was generated was hatred between the departments. I'm sure the trooper is regretting her decision as is the officer.

Mr. T @ 11/1/2011 11:06 AM

I've been in the police business 25 years, and I'm used to fighting the bad guys on the street.....but when cops treat each other like this its time to hang it up. I've always loved my job even though I've been shot at, spit on, assualted, insulted, etc. etc. But these days cops have forgotten what its like to depend on each other. I would bet a paycheck that she's (trooper) never been on the butt end of a butt kicking and needed a local cop to bail her out. NO the officer shouldn't have been driving that fast, but every single cop out there knows the proper way to handle this is through the chain of command in both agencies. I don't expect non-law enforcement to understand as there is no way they can..... I promise you....if you've not been out there on the streets then you DO NOT KNOW what its like. But I would hang my head in shame if I wore the uniform of the FL Hwy Patrol!!!

Weyes1 @ 11/1/2011 11:35 AM

I agree with Texas Deputy and Erick! Let things be handled internally!

Luis @ 11/1/2011 11:41 AM

Was it really necessary to handcuff a fellow Officer of the Law? Specially for a traffic offense? True, he was going way too fast, but you can always complain to his superiors. And if the trooper is that hard up for a ticket (as they usually are) then issue it and don't handcuff the Officer. Very unnecessary to place the Officer in handcuffs.

Luis @ 11/1/2011 11:48 AM

I just read the post by 'Jane Simone'. Apparently the Officer that was pulled over was drinking? Where did it say that in the original story, I missed that. If that was the case, then I agree with him being handcuffed and arrested. But speeding? Come on now.

Me @ 11/1/2011 11:52 AM

Are these blogs dedicated to the linching of police officers? It seems like every time I read an article, all the comments are directed at how horrible the officer is and how he should be fired. I don't know why he was doing 120 and nobody else appears to as well (at least I can't find it any where in the article). I would like a little more detail to the incident such as why he was speeding (in a marked unit while in uniform
It appears) and why the trooper felt the need to draw her weapon on a marked unit much less initiate a traffic stop on a marked unit. We can all yell and scream that he was breaking policy by speeding but how many of you have stepped it up to get to something without running code. Regardless, be safe out there!

Fdup @ 11/1/2011 12:40 PM

I'm glad he was pulled over. The police down here are out of control. They think they can do what ever they want. Legal or not. Bad cops make the good ones look bad. When an officer sees another officer doing something wrong they need to step up or they're just as bad for doing nothing. It's sad when you have to worry more about the police harming you than you do the criminals.

Tom @ 11/1/2011 1:33 PM

I am a believer in professional courtesy as much as the next officer. That being said, driving at that high rate of speed, in a marked squad, without lights/siren activated....makes everyone of us who wears a badge look like a douche bag. I can understand the approach with weapon drawn...don't really think the handcuffs were necessary. Enough people in this country already hate us...lets not give them a valid reason too.

L.A.S @ 11/1/2011 2:29 PM

I am quick to judge and I shouldn't be. All I can see is the video tape and it has no audio that I can hear. I would hope there are other circumstances that we are not aware of. However if there are no other issues other than the speed, I would have to say that is unbeleavable to see a brother officer in uniform, being arrested for speeding. I know 120mph is over the top however I did not see any vehicles being forced off the road. Speeding is one of the harzards of the trade. We all speed from time to time maybe not at that speed but to handcuff him disarm him in public, come on. Like I said, there has to be more to it.

John Russell @ 11/1/2011 3:49 PM

TO ALL YOU COPS there is only one LAW --in my opinion LAW OF PHYSICS that is it--your pathetic thinking you have any power will end soon then it willbe LAW OF ATRITION remember this..YOu think you are the LAW but how fast would entire military over rule all of you instantly with unimaginable firepower if they decdided to? and how controlled would they be if an entire ARMY of suffiecient power overhwhelmed them? Again you only power if the fear you intimitade NOW!!

Sarge @ 11/1/2011 5:37 PM

James Fitzpatrick: You're right, but it's HOLIER-than-thou! :-D

retired @ 11/1/2011 6:03 PM

I can not fault the troopers first actions. She did not know who was driving or what she had at the onset. She clearly figured it out fast though when she realized who the driver was and holstered her weapon. There were a dozen courses of action besides cuffing and arresting a uniformed officer. The speeding officer was clearly wrong but her follow through is where this discussion will be held up for quite awhile I'm sure. This was on the news last night and the whole department now is shamed by one officers stupidity. The department should have been given the opportunity to handle this but now instead it is the public media and "You tube".

RFetired Officer @ 11/1/2011 6:38 PM

Erick is correct. Unless we have all the facts we have no reason to judge the officer. If he did abuse his authority or misuse his vehicle then throw the book at him. If the officer was acting or proceeding within the scope of his authority or for a true emergency then we need to take that into consideration. You are all over reacting without all the facts. To the trooper: "Thin Blue Line" never forget that! Everyone be safe out on the streets as we have too many crazies on the street now days.

FOP Brother

tim @ 11/2/2011 7:05 AM

she is an idiot pulling a gun on an armed in uniform officer he was wrong for driving that fast but this was handled way wrong by a woman trooper without any common sence.

scpdblue @ 11/2/2011 11:08 AM

She should have called MPD and had a supervisor come out... She was pumped up on adrenaline during the stop,Its called the blue light syndrome.. One day she will need backup from MPD and she will see that its slow in coming.

El @ 11/2/2011 11:50 AM

She should have detained him and called supervisors. Once she confirmed he was actually on-the-job, he posed no threat to her and did not need to be cuffed. I would submit there was already tension between the two agencies....

Mike @ 11/2/2011 1:50 PM

James Fitzpatrick,

It's 'grammar,' not 'grammer.' And it's 'holier-than-thou,' not 'holy-than-thou.'

You're right, though, that it's jackasses like this guy that give cops a bad reputation.

Gary @ 11/2/2011 2:45 PM

120 MPH for 14 miles with a marked squad with lights and sirens activated and did not stop, never tried to communicate to FHP, stops how did the trooper know his state of mind,? absolutley detain sucure him until facts are obtained, very smart on her part

Gerry @ 11/3/2011 10:46 AM

I just viewed the video and have to say that I am completely disgusted that she actually did that. I have over 13 years in this business and have stopped off duty officers doing things like excessively speeding. I have only issued a citation ONCE and that was because the guy was an absolute JERK. I think it's bad enough to have the bad guys out there pointing a gun in your face let alone a fellow officer while you're in full uniform and a marked cruiser.

Deputy @ 11/3/2011 4:11 PM

How did she know the officer was off duty? Maybe she should cite herself as well, wasn't she performing the same acts as the officer? Hopefully her department treats her in the same manner.

D @ 11/3/2011 4:42 PM

If he was going to a call, he should've never stopped and called HIS dispatch to let the trooper know through FHP dispatch as to what was going on. I will NEVER be handcuffed in uniform no matter the circumstances and will NEVER cuff another officer knowingly. Never would I stop a marked police car, the smart thing for the trooper to do would have been to call dispatch to see what the emergency was. When there was none, the officers agency would have probably suspended him. 3 days off is a HELL of a lot more MONEY than a damn ticket! So the cop bashers out here should and need to be aware that cops don't get off scott free.

Steve Perez @ 11/3/2011 7:57 PM

Things must be slow for the Fl. Highway Patrol.

Wesley Mccauley. @ 11/3/2011 8:09 PM

Texas deputy.....I'm sure your sheriff appreciates your backwards thinking. If you would have been doing 120 in a 70 or whatever it was you deserve to go to jail.....and have your gun taken.....and if it was you in that position knowing you did something wrong you would have acted the same way as this Miami officer...dont try to make it out as if you would have done anything different cause you would have been the one violating the law not her. How can you justify any of te stupid rookie crap you just posted here.

Rick @ 11/4/2011 8:49 AM

Really guys.. 120 in traffic without emergency lights. He needed stopping. Handcuffing? Probably a good idea on the troop's part until she is at least sure he is a real cop... he wasn't acting like one and anyone can buy uniforms, patches, and duty gear on Ebay. Allow himself to be handcuffed a mistake? He had the commendable mental grasp to understand that getting cuffed is preferable to a roadside fight betwen officers, or worse yet, a gun battle. It's a bad situation all around, but we should think out our responses before posting. Anything we're advocating should make the situation better, not worse. The worst possible outcome in this would have been the headline "Florida trooper killed by murderer dressed as cop in a stolen car!" That we can all do without.

CT LEO RET @ 11/4/2011 6:23 PM

I'm not Monday morning quarter backing, and every state has different laws regarding operation of emergency vehicles. But, I would have made a phone call and Miami PD send the shift commander out there and let them handle it. As far as drawing a weapon, officer safety is officer safety.

Saenforcer @ 11/5/2011 1:28 AM

Don't know how many of these posts are civilians and not police, but how bout trying this one on for size, there have been several times when the patrol car I happen to get for the day has no radar unit in it, so I have to use a technique called pacing to catch speeders. The better known ways is to get into someone's blind spot, or get into lane as far away, and out of sight, and pace cars that speed, and since the marked units have calibrated speedometers, I "pace" the vehicles, and write the drivers, for the speed my speedometer shows. Now every once in awhile, I will get a smart@$$ civilian, who will try and pace me :),
So I will let them, and I will slowly increase my speed to see if they do also, and on a few occasions I have had some go all the way up to 85 mph in a 60 mph zone, at which time I would change lanes brake fast, let'em pass me by like the mig 28's did with maverick when he hit his air brakes and the mig's pass him by and he gets in behind and shoots a missile up it's behind, but alas I have no sidewinder missiles, so I have to settle for lights and sirens, and pull them over for speeding. Now of course all of the people throw up the you were speeding and didn't have your lights on, so I could speed too. So I have to point out that my marked patrol unit is exempt from traffic laws. Which is true if it is required due to an emergency situation, but that it does not shield me from any civil liabilities should my disobeying of traffic control devices result in an accident. Now I have gone to court over these tickets, and my standard line I have always used is "judge I don't know how to catch a speeder without speeding too, whether I'm in front of them or in back of them. Fl pd should have told trooper she was under arrest for reckless driving too, prior to being handcuffed.:).

Pup @ 11/5/2011 10:15 AM

Shame on both the FHP and Miami Officer for their actions. In addition,
Shame on FHP for giving the video and information to the press to be aired on YT and the news. What a way to bring attention to LE. Pretty embarrassing I would say the least. Deal with the situation in house and teach better tactics.

Saenforcer @ 11/5/2011 10:29 AM

Sorry cant quite let this one go, as a veteran of San Antonio pd for 26 years, I had thought I had seen everything but this one is still sticking in my gut. We all know now that the pd off was late for a second job, so yea kinda of stupid on his part, but all we have to go on is the word of a crazy trooper, who if she is anything like our troopers here in Texas will write for one mile over, that he was doing 120mph, and being in countless chases where speeds have reached that, it sure did not appear to me that the marked pd unit was passing cars up like they were standing still, which is exactly what it should have looked liked on her dash cam, so I'm thinking tubby the trooper might be fibbin them speeds a little, or a lot. Someone else wrote she should have detained him till a supervisor could have made the scene. Eeggggg wrong again, I seem to always have to point out to younger officers that just because we wear a badge does not mean our rights as citizens of this great country go out the door. Sure you can detain a person you have just made a traffic stop on for investigory reasons, but I have never read a court ruling giving police the right to detain someone till their boss in any career, the person being detained is in, so no, that should not happen. Basically this trooper needs to be fired, for using extremely bad judgement, not to mention her actions could have resulted into a very tragic outcome. Suppose a pd off that works with Pd off being pulled over pulls up right when trooper is pointing gun at pd off., that cover pd off knows and works with. Since cover off. doesn't know trooper, trooper now has a gun pointed at here from cover off. and she's being ordered to drop it. Based on her decision making ability, or lack of, would she have opened fire. God only knows.

EVIL4HIRE.COM @ 11/7/2011 2:10 AM

Your all idiots who think he should be treated unlike everyone else in this same situation. If anything he should be held to a higher standard. NO BRASS PASS FOR THIS DUMASS!!!

tmf @ 11/8/2011 2:16 PM

In California we are not allowed (nor do we have the resources) for a take home car. That being said, yes the Miami officers was driving too fast, but let's not be hypocrites. I would have never asked another officer to submit to being handcuffed for a vehicle code violation. I'm surprised he complied. If you're that upset at the officer for speeding then call his supervisor...un-freakin-believable.

tmf @ 11/8/2011 2:21 PM

And he allowed her to disarm him...no way!

TimFromLA @ 11/10/2011 9:43 PM

Is there no hope left when cops arrests cops? When anger from the same state-certified agency spills over to another? This is the byproduct of cops getting laid off or losing their jobs.

Rob @ 11/11/2011 5:53 AM

In response to "R"s salary comments. No, you don't pay my salary! I do! The last time I checked my pay-stub I pay the same taxes you do, in essence I pay my salary. I'm tired of hearing that lame rhetoric as an outlash

Andrew @ 11/11/2011 7:05 AM

Former cop here... I don't know the details beyond what I'm seeing in this video, but based on that:

1. I don't understand why some of you are ranting on the trooper for drawing her weapon. How was she supposed to know the officer she was chasing was actually an officer? It could've been a stolen cruiser, especially based on how the guy was driving it. And if it was, the driver may have had access to a service weapon. She would've been stupid to not follow good felony-stop protocol.

2. Whether the guy was actually driving 120 doesn't matter... he was going well above the speed limit, eluding a police officer in pursuit, and weaving in the lanes. Where I served, that would've been reckless driving, evading, and a mandatory arrest for a citizen.

3. The officer had *no* business driving like that to an off-duty assignment, period.

So, my point is, if you're truly among the blue, don't defend this guy in any way and don't bash her for following felony-stop procedures. If you would've approached that cruiser thinking it was a fellow cop, you are foolish and inviting a deadly surprise someday.

That said, if I were her, once I determined it was a actually fellow officer, I would've secured his service weapon for my protection and detained him in the back of my cruiser. Then, I would've called my supervisor and let her/him hash it out. That's what supervisors are for. The jurisdiction where I worked is in the Washington, DC area, so we had frequent cross-department stops, with all the feds, state, and local cops in the area. It was always SOP to bring a supervisor into the mix, unless it was a routine stop for a minor traffic offense.

SRG @ 11/11/2011 9:04 AM

Sad, I've seen where a County unit is tailing a City unit and a State unit following both. The crooks are laughing their rears off.......

M @ 11/11/2011 9:28 AM

I use to work traffic enforcement for the 4th largest department in the country and I have stopped plenty of other officers. It is a shame that we have a fellow officer who thinks they are above the law. I makes us look bad in the eyes of the public that we swore to protect and serve. I've had plenty of encounters with all kinds of law enforcement officers that sometimes didn't turn out the greastest. I've called many of supervisors of other agencies in the area to make the scene or talked to them via phone. I learned to take myself out of the situation and let the supervisor handle the situation, but most officers that I have stopped were polite and respectful of the job I had to do.

David Cook @ 11/11/2011 12:38 PM

His actions were improper and illegal without a doubt and the officer should be dealt with by his agency. The trooper however over reacted.

Copper @ 11/11/2011 9:37 PM

Wow. I don't know what else to say. I wouldn't even put a civilian in cuffs for doing 120. Is there no brotherhood down there in Florida? Cuff a fellow officer for speeding? He was in uniform, on duty and in a marked vehicle. Wow. Hardcore down there in Florida.

Tom @ 11/12/2011 2:04 PM

I can't believe that she didn't get herself shot pulling a stupid stunt like that. Why in God's name would you pull a firearm on another officer? what has this world become. Her and her department should hang their heads low.

coby @ 11/16/2011 6:27 PM

I agree with the officers above, and if you's would be so kind as to call my supervisor the next time I break the law, ill add yous to my Christmas card mailing list.

Jones @ 12/24/2011 12:47 PM

Erick, well said!

Tiffany @ 1/8/2012 11:50 PM

Who cares what the reason is, he was off duty, and therefore subject to the law just like the rest of us are at any given time. Also, by being in uniform, in his cruiser, while "NOT on duty" and speeding, he was not being a very good role model for the citizens he passed. She did her job the way she was trained end of story....

Randy @ 1/9/2012 7:02 PM

I get a kick out of you "cops" who say things like "I'd like to see her take my weapon" or some nonsense like that. If you violate the law and I'm the officer arresting you, I'd like to see you resist arrest and not surrender your firearm..... You would be carried by twelve and for no good reason because you would be wrong whether you lived or died. Just because your a police officer doesn't give you authority to override my authority. Grow up. This has nothing to do with the thin blue line. It is not in question whether the Miami cop should or should not have done what he did. He was going to an off duty 2nd job. I'm a former cop and generally I dislike troopers in any state, but no matter what the trooper did here, it wasn't as bad as what the stupid miami cop did.

KLR @ 1/9/2012 7:12 PM

It isn't possible for me to pass judgement on the officer without knowing all of the facts behind his reason for speeding in such a manner while off duty. I could not see myself cuffing the officer, but then again, I was not in her shoes and can not know the facts pertaining to her situation either. I find myself wondering if she may have been protecting herself by drawing her weapon due to being unsure whether it was actually an officer behind the wheel of the cruiser.

Juan 10-13 @ 4/10/2012 6:16 AM

It's a sad day when this continues to happen with US! I guess most brothers today don't understand the bond like it was understood in tradititional times! Thanks for sharing this vital point Erick. I can only hope and pray we as brothers continue to work closer with each other rather creating a barrier.

Juan 10-13 @ 4/10/2012 6:27 AM

Thank you Erick.....the sense of brotherhood is seriously at risk of being wiped out here. I too am from the old school and you surrender your weapon to "ONLY the Police Surgeon". This could have been ugly!

locnlo2 @ 7/19/2012 2:36 AM

that FHP officer was overly bearing to place handcuffs on that fellow officer. she can't be a veteran officer of not more that 2-5years on the job. she is pittiful in the executation of her duties. She should have stop the cruiser, (gun point was ok) till she found out the circumstances, but never continue to point a gun thereafter.

she should have taken some deep breaths and then calm down and began to articulate what she was going to do. It was simple to call her own supervisor, but no cuffing another brother while traffic passing by. she was way out of content. Pulling her gun would not have save her if the cruiser really had been stolen or if more than one person was inside the cruiser. They could have been armed and upoin her approach, she could have been killed with no backup for miles. She must be a rookie, it is endeed a protocal to await for backup when pursueing another vehicle without knowing all the facts. she was reckless in her delivery and post lost in her decision to make a lone stop. She placed her life on the line. The supervisor for the other department should be notified and the driver of the cruiser should be given 3 day without to make him remember hgis oath. The trooper should be sent back to refresher school on how to be patient and thinkactive than proactive. She just kills me with her moves on how to conduct a traffic stop against another fellow officer. I am a 32year vet, specilizing in traffic stops, conversations and DOT certified and a teacher of idiot Florida troopers...like this one.

gary rowell @ 9/17/2012 6:49 PM

One of the privileges of being underpaid is you can drive a little faster than your ordnary citizen but 120 is a little excessive but the FHP have been seen on more than one occasion speeding without lights and siren but they have always known to put themselves above of the standard police officer. The gun was way out of line seeing the officer was in uniform. He has to work two jobs two jobs to feed he family but as I said 120 is a little fast even when everybody else is going eighty.

Brian @ 9/17/2012 7:16 PM

Shes lucky that she didnt get shot! How stupid! Call the other agency and have them tell the officer that she wants to talk with him. How does he know shes not an imposter? Both were in the wrong, this could have ended very badly!

Pig Eater @ 9/9/2013 8:48 PM

You Pigs are the worst spellers! I've enjoyed reading your comments though and thank you all for confirming what I've always known. The rules and laws just don't apply to you and your gang, only the lowly Pleebs. Just a footnote for shits and giggles, that Super trooper as she's been referred to sued each and every agency that pulled a David report on her, and made a pretty penny. Lol

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