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LAPD Chief Slams Nationwide Concealed Carry Legislation

May 29, 2017  | 

LAPD Chief Charlie Beck and Los Angeles City Attorney Mark Feuer have expressed their opposition to nationwide concealed carry laws in the Los Angeles Times.

Here’s an excerpt of what they wrote:

Californians have a lot on the line in the next congressional debate about America’s gun laws. Two bills stacked with legislative sponsors — HB 38 in the House, SB 446 in the Senate — would override our state’s longstanding rules governing who is allowed to carry a concealed, loaded firearm in public. These bills, both called the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, would dictate that if a person can carry a concealed weapon in any state, that person could carry it everywhere in America.

Our state laws require good cause for the issuance of a concealed weapon permit. Applicants must undergo a comprehensive background check. No one with a serious criminal conviction may receive a permit, nor may subjects of temporary or permanent domestic violence restraining orders.

But if concealed carry reciprocity were the law of the land, all this would change. Unbelievably, the House version would allow an individual denied a permit in California to cross the border to a more permissive state, obtain a permit there, then return to California — with a new right to carry here.

 In addition to jeopardizing public safety, concealed carry reciprocity would endanger the lives of law enforcement. The mere presence of more concealed weapons on California streets would make police work here much more hazardous.

Because concealed carry reciprocity poses grave risks, the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence, including the Major Cities Chiefs Assn. and the International Assn. of Chiefs of Police, along with the Assn. of Prosecuting Attorneys, the leaders of Prosecutors Against Gun Violence and many other partners in law enforcement, have strongly opposed it.

Read complete article at LATimes.com.


Comments (22)

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Norman Barnett @ 5/29/2017 12:49 PM

I doubt the majority of the general rank-and-file of LAPD share the opinion of thier leadership.

Norman Barnetg @ 5/29/2017 12:53 PM

I doubt the majority of LAPD rank-and-file share the same opinion as thier leadership.

David Hoffman @ 5/29/2017 1:06 PM

But reciprocity allows USofA citizens from other states to have the potential to defend themselves in other states from violent criminals. California still has not eliminated the violent criminals from its streets. The cops in California are still minutes away when seconds count.

Mike @ 5/29/2017 1:49 PM

This is so stupid. People with serious criminal convictions and domestic abuse convictions (the Lautenberg Act) can't own firearms to begin with. Every state that issues CCW's runs a background check on who they issue to. CCW holders overall, are more responsible gun owners and members of society as well. Chief Beck, you're either ignorant or a political pawn.

Mike @ 5/29/2017 1:54 PM

This is stupid. People with serious criminal convictions and domestic abuse can't own firearms anyway (Lautenberg Act). States the issue CCW's run background checks on prospective permit holders as well. CCW holders overall are more responsible gun owners and members of society as well. This was either a statement that is incredibly ignorant or meant to curry political favor.

Jack Betz @ 5/29/2017 2:04 PM

In one word HORSESHIT. In every state in the union the same thing has been said. Concealed carry will cause blood to flow in the street, four way stops will be the ok corral. It just does not happen

gary @ 5/29/2017 6:19 PM

other states have tough backrbackground check law. the state of Virgina has one real tough laws. the state of Flordia wants your life history and than some. California just don't want to give them to anyone but friends and people with money. get tough on kids that are 14,15 year old carrying machine guns. in Ca 944 were stolen from law enforcement. if you play the game be fair to both sides.

jim @ 5/29/2017 8:03 PM

Instead of worrying about the millions of law-abiding citizens that could protect themselves and others from crime, Chief Beck should focus on the thousands of criminals that use guns illegally to prey on those citizens.

TJiNY @ 5/29/2017 10:04 PM

Its incredible how Beck opposes national reciprocity and has the nerve to cite "dangers", and claim to be for law and order, yet he seems to have nothing but sympathy for illegal aliens! He has such sympathy that he won't follow the law and won't allow LAPD Officers to follow it!

Hypocrisy at its best Chief Beck!

TJiNY @ 5/29/2017 10:05 PM

Its incredible how Beck opposes national reciprocity and has the nerve to cite "dangers", and claim to be for law and order, yet he seems to have nothing but sympathy for illegal aliens! He has such sympathy that he won't follow the law and won't allow LAPD Officers to follow it!

Hypocrisy at its best Chief Beck!

Brian @ 5/30/2017 3:40 AM

Isn't what he is arguing about issuance/non-issuance standard when applying for a carry permit? I know my State will not issue a permit if you have serious criminal history, mental health issues, drug dependence or are subject to an OOP. I agree with him on being concerned about a person jumping state lines in an attempt to gain a permit. I believe you should have to obtain your carry permit based on your state of residency.

Tom Campione @ 5/31/2017 7:00 AM

Concealed carry makes police work more dangerous? This commie-Chief is upside down. Police commit more crime than CCW holders. By his logic, police make police work more dangerous! LOL.

Lt Roy Smith @ 6/2/2017 10:16 AM

Brian, isn't the chief your uncle?

otj26yrs @ 6/2/2017 1:06 PM

I agree brian. If you live in a state where the laws do not suit your lifestyle or desires then move out of the state. Dont simply hop a state line to try and subvert the rules MOVE wow sooo simple. I see it as a non issue. I see him as an idiot yielding to political powers that be who are more concerned with stacking the electorate than with the rights of community members and the tax burdens placed upon each one of those community members.

RPG @ 6/3/2017 8:43 AM

I realize that there has never been a law like this, but in state's that have concealed carry laws, many more people are saved by this than are harmed by it. Why is it that liberals always lean towards protecting violent criminals from law-abiding citizens?

Bruce @ 6/3/2017 8:56 AM

Brian, So by your standards, I have NC CCW and VA Non-resident CCW, but when I visit my sister in CA, I have to leave my weapon at home. Before retirement, I was a VA municipal Park Ranger, graduated from PD Academy, in-service trng w/ PD, etc, but because my Government ID said Park Ranger, not Police Officer, under VA Statues, I am not a LEO under the LEOSA and authorized for the National LEO Carry. My sister in CA, is widowed, travels all over the country, by herself, but can not get a CA CCW permit because Self-Defense in CA is not a valid reason for a CCW. I would like to see a National CCW Permit.

Jeff @ 6/3/2017 11:17 AM

States must retain the right to run their own affairs, but not when their state laws run afoul of the U.S. Constitution. Armed citizens are not the problem... armed criminals are. Treating both groups the same way is lazy, unproductive and UNconstitutional.

Rob @ 6/3/2017 12:31 PM

The Chief is pandering to his political base. Total BS! Every state in the nation that issues permits for concealed carry follows the Lautenberg Act which does not allow anyone under indictment for domestic violence or restraining orders (temp or perm) to even possess a firearm. Background checks are REQUIRED by every state that issues CCW permits. Even in Calif., all anyone has to do is travel to a northern county and "pay" a fee to the sheriff to get a permit valid anywhere in the state. The wealthy and rich do that all the time, but the rest of us just don't have the means.

CaptMidnight @ 6/3/2017 1:48 PM

~ HB 218 LEOSA became law in 2004. Private Citizens should have equal time.
2bd amendment applies in all 50 States including The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia.

Since then Gov. Ronnie Ray-Gun REPEALED open carry, only the favored few get a "may issue" permit.

Funny, Retired LAPD/LCSO, Security Guards, Private Investigators, Couriers on Rodeo Drive and the Financial Dist. routinely get permits...............

Scott Koennicke @ 6/5/2017 12:24 PM

This BS stance is the only way a guy like that can, or will ever, hold a Chief's position in a large city. He's drinking the Kool-Aid.

Chiefton @ 6/6/2017 5:07 AM

Okay chief, I am a retired LE officer. While being an officer, I could carry anywhere, in any state. Went through my background check when I was hired but never again after that. This is the same in all departments across the country. Where the citizens more at risk because of this? No. Now that I am retired, I have a LE CCW and again can carry anywhere, including LA, schools, police stations and court houses. Federal property is still banned. I qualify annually and will probably qualify higher than 99% of the officers on the streets today, yet I have to pay to exercise my rights under the Bill of Rights. Do you pay to exercise your right of Free Speech? There is no real reason for infringing on the 2nd Amendment other than to make money. Who are you to dictate who can and who cannot exercise their right to self defense. Put your focus into getting the gang bangers, MS 13 and illegals off the street before you start attacking legal, law abiding, 2nd amendment armed citizens.

Grabacadaver @ 6/27/2017 6:22 AM

What about the abuse of criminal charges brought upon citizens to disenfranchise and take away their rights? Focus on those issues and convince me that you are innocent unless proven guilty. While you're at it take note of the percentage of plea bargains proposed by DA' s across the nation and explain to me why a citizen is offered a plea if that citizen is presumed innocent?

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