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Calif. To Enforce Handgun Micro-Stamping

May 20, 2013  | 

A hotly contested California gun-control law that was passed in 2007 is finally ready to be implemented, state Attorney General Kamala Harris said last week. The requirement that every new semiautomatic handgun contain "micro-stamping" technology would allow police to trace a weapon from cartridges found at a crime scene.

The law, signed by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, made California the first state to require micro-stamping, which engraves the gun's serial number on each cartridge. But the legislation specified that it would take effect only when the technology was available and all private patents had expired.

Gun owners group Calguns Foundation tried to forestall the law at one point by paying a $555 fee in an attempt to extend a patent held by the inventor, who wanted it to lapse. Gun manufacturers said the technology was expensive and ineffective, and a National Rifle Association lawyer has threatened a lawsuit.

Read the full San Francisco Chronicle story.

Comments (19)

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Troop @ 5/20/2013 11:51 PM

The only thing the PD will find at the crime scene is the name of the owner of which the gun was originally stolen from.

NJmotorcop @ 5/21/2013 3:35 PM

You're right Troop, but that doesn't bother them at all. This has never been about crime control, its just another way to harass gun owners by making guns too expensive for the average citizen to afford.

DPB @ 5/21/2013 3:36 PM

If only we had the technology available during "fast and furious," we could have been able to tell which obama minion allowed the guns to get to the cartels to be used against innocent civilians and LE officers!!! Now we will never know!

walkintrails @ 5/21/2013 4:36 PM

I'm sure all this is fine with the California civil litigation community. Innocent gun owners whose firearms are stolen usually have more money to bleed out than the criminal who stole the gun and used it.

Capt. Crunch @ 5/21/2013 4:49 PM

Guys & Dolls, the law was signed by Scharzenegger a republican.

[email protected] @ 5/21/2013 4:55 PM

Another fiasco from kalifornia. These morons that run the state (?) and the idiots that keep re-electing them just keep on pushing the industries out . Any idea how many firearms manufacturers there are in LaLaLand? And how many will leave do to the unreasonable cost to inplant these great laws? Remember that pistol that used to cost $900.00? Well, now it cost $1200.00. Or higher. Good-bye customers. Or is this their obamaplan? Sad. There go the lemmings over the clift. Blues, Stay Safe.

therookie @ 5/21/2013 5:52 PM

Just what Kooky Kalifornia needs, more laws that they can not enforce because of budget deficits. They will not admit that they can't even put parole/probation violaters back in jail. In all my years of being a L.E.O. i very seldom came across a legally owned gun. If I did it was a straight up domestic situation that the perp didn't care about.

Marksman1122 @ 5/21/2013 6:03 PM

Unfortunately, ex -governor Schwarzenegger was a republican in name only. He voted almost entirely with the democrats on everything. Just one more thing putting California further into the far left. BS laws like this are further attempts to disarm law abiding gun owners. Seeing as there are millions of guns out there that are not micro stamped, there will probably never be a time when criminals actually use a gun that is micro stamped. Even if they do buy one of these theoretical guns that will probably never get made specifically for the state of California, they're just going to file off the numbers or buy a replacement firing pin from another state that is not micro stamped. Complete waste of everybody's time.

Capt. Crunch @ 5/21/2013 6:25 PM

Marksman, just to let you know Bush opened the door for Obama. Bush, was so bad that if McCain, ran against Donald Duck he still would have lost. Think about it, what has a republican done for you? Wake up man a smell the coffee.

?? @ 5/21/2013 6:59 PM

When they inspect a gun:
How will they know when it was made?
How will they know if it was made in California?
Why would someone purchase a gun in California when they could in Arizona or any other state and bang it to California upon purchase?
If they are going to inspect handguns on a regular basis and they have grabby hands, wont the owners just say like Leonidas ”come and get them!”

clifford @ 5/21/2013 11:15 PM

What is suppose to micro-stamp the cartridge? If it is the chamber? What about a case that has been reloaded several times and used in different guns?

Jim A @ 5/22/2013 1:37 AM

I can smell coffee just fine. And Bush was just average if you consider the recent comparison. Liberalism, whether Republic or Democrat, is killing America. When Freedom is list in America, there will be no place to run to.

Bob @ VA @ 5/22/2013 4:49 AM

clifford - The firing pin and breech face would be laser etched. It's incredibly stupid for a host of reasons. The firing pin and slide can be easily replaced with a non-etched version, or filed smooth. They will wear smooth after some time anyway. If you shoot at a range, then you had better collect all your brass because it would be simple to "plant" someone else's brass at a crime scene. As has been said, the stamping at best will only tell you from whom the gun was stolen as crooks will not use identifying weapons. Some jurisdiction have tried a variety of similar schemes like requiring a fired cartridge case be submitted for every weapon sold. Not one crime has ever been solved by these systems. Microstamping is just another means of violating law-abiding citizen's civil rights.

James @ 5/22/2013 5:05 AM

Arnold is another fine Austrian socialist just like his infamous countryman Adolph Hitler. They never seem to grasp the concept that socialism failed and keeps failing.
This law will add $300 to $500 a gun according to the experts. And if the morons can grind off serial numbers why can't the Dremel tool remove the micro stamping? Fact is they can. This will also cause China to make knock off parts without the stamps and a massive black market to follow. The Socialists only want to end gun ownership any way they can, make it financially impossible, red tape, Insurance costs driven up by the State, you name it.

Greg @ 5/22/2013 5:14 AM

Replace the slide, throw it away (or, "OMG, it was stolen!", pop in a new barrel...ballistics, what ballistics? Firing pin? Oops, must have stuck in a new one when I was cleaning my pistol.

Was Bush bad? Yep, as liberal as his Daddy was....but he wasn't Obama, who hates this country, the military and with his minions, loves muslims and can't bear to have one called a terrorist.

Republicans (gun owners) will come to our aid and will support law enforcement...think a Dem/Liberal will? No support from this group unless you're Mummia or the bad guys.

Glockthis @ 5/22/2013 6:25 AM

Hey, Our job is to get the bad guys. If this will help lead to the POS, I'm fine with it. Lets keep politics out this discussion and just do our jobs.

Bob @ VA @ 5/22/2013 10:12 AM

Glockthis - Our job is to serve and protect. We need adequate funding and good science, plus the trust of the public to perform effectively. Stupid laws based on stupid reasoning that erodes the credibility of authority undermines our ability to serve and protect. Dirt bags will always be dirt bags and hence our enemies. There are enough of them without making criminals of law-abiding citizens and eroding their confidence in us. We need to keep our eye on the big picture. Junk science makes bad laws, and everyone looks like an idiot or worse trying to enforce the unenforceable.

James @ 5/24/2013 7:12 AM

So many angry morons.

Trigger @ 5/29/2013 10:35 AM

I think back when I started in law enforcement in 1978 when I was issued 20 rounds of .38 cal. ammo (six in the "roller gun" and seven in each dump pouch..the extra round was loaded backwards so the would not rattle in the aluminum lined pouch). The supply sergeant said that was all the ammo we needed and we were not authorized to buy any on our own. Life was much simplier then!! It amazes me that some of this thought process has carried over into todays political arena. We all went and bought more ammo to carry (we circumvented the policy), how long is to going to take for someone to circumvent the mircro-stamping? I am sure that the criminals are not concerned about the stamping as they obtained the firearms illegally anyway.

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