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Gun Range Bars Vermont Cops

January 29, 2013  | 

Screenshot via Fox News.
Screenshot via Fox News.

The battle over the right to bear arms is flaring in Vermont, where a local gun range has moved to prohibit the Burlington Police Department from training at its facilities after the City Council voted to advance a measure banning semi-automatic rifles and large-capacity magazines.

The leadership of the Lamoille Valley Fish and Game Club explained that it's "difficult" for the club to support the city—even its officers—given the actions of the council.  

Read the full Fox News story.

Tags: Firearms Training, Gun Control Advocacy, Burlington (Vt.) PD, Vermont


Comments (21)

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Randy @ 1/29/2013 3:45 PM

They have that right and I can't say that I blame them for taking that action.

Tom Ret @ 1/29/2013 3:50 PM

Too bad for the cops as the rank and file most likely don't support the city
council's move.

RICHARD ISAACS @ 1/29/2013 5:00 PM

CUT OFF THE NOSE TO SPITE THE FACE. MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

cs @ 1/29/2013 5:01 PM

So, let me get this straight. The Burlington City Council is supporting a ban on semi autos and large capacity magazines, but the local fish and game club is objecting to this measure, resulting in the local constabulary being banned from the use of their club for training, right? Well, that's a bit of a knee jerk reaction, and certainly unwarranted as it's the local police you'll be calling when you have a prowler at night on your property, or any other potential life threatening event. You will wish they had all the support and training possible, nice move Lamoille Valley Fish and Game Club. Try calling your membership next time you have an emergency.

njmotorcop @ 1/29/2013 5:21 PM

This is one of the many reasons why only states, not counties and cities should be allowed to make laws. Citizens shouldn't have to worry about being jailed for violating some unConstitutional law in some one horse town that they just drove through.

Red @ 1/29/2013 6:33 PM

I am sure that individual cops will be able to use this facility on their off time. The range people are directing their ire at the City and the Police Department is part of the Ciry! I believe that it is a wake-up call to the city's fathers! Hope it works!

Nichole @ 1/30/2013 4:10 AM

I agree that this may be a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but in the same hand, I also believe that it's warranted.

This whole gun ban thing has gone wildly out of control already, and it's still in it's infancy. If we, as gun owning and responsible people, don't make our stand early and loudly, we may never get the chance.

Fed Up Citizen @ 1/30/2013 4:41 AM

This range has the right idea. When elected officials enact laws or rules and regulations which are clearly against the Constitution then we as citizens must make a stand. Perhaps these officers as a group of voters can vote out these politicians.

Ed @ 1/30/2013 5:25 AM

Law of Unintended Consequences - how does it work?

Bob @ VA @ 1/30/2013 5:33 AM

It's about time that liberals started to learn that actions have consequences. It's unfortunate that the peace officers were caught in the middle, but realistically, what else could the range do to express their extreme distaste for the moronic city council? They took the only dramatic course available to them under the circumstances, and good on them for the courage to do so.

Only about 0.5% of all violent crimes involve modern sporting rifles. According to the FBI statistics, hands/feet and knives account for just under 30% and 20% respectively, dwarfing rifles of all types in violent crime rates, so perhaps we should ban hands and feet? This is all ultimately about government control, not crime.

Rob @ 1/30/2013 5:42 AM

Maybe these politicians can go on to show that government can build a range facility much more efficiently and cost effective than a private, already established facility. These laws only serve to drive wedges between law enforcement and the law abiding tax paying public they serve.

Dan B @ 1/30/2013 6:24 AM

Really? To send a message to the politicians, you ban the people charged with protecting the Constitution and you from much-needed training opportunities. I think there could have been a better way to get the message across!

Trigger @ 1/30/2013 7:15 AM

Here we go again, politics!! I will never understand humans, they make the most stupid decisions when an issue arrises. Keep the cops off the range because you do not like the decision of the city council. Let's see, how many members or range customers will they loose because of the councils decision? So they take a stand and stop the cops, why not show good faith and let them continue to use the range? There are other ways to make a statement!!

Lt604 @ 1/30/2013 8:51 AM

The gun club is not anti police. I'm sure their objections to the City Council fell on defa ears. They are making a point. The City will likely not back down and the gun club will likely concede eventually. Its trying to get politicians attention. Sometimes they don't listen very well. Understand that the gun club is a constituent of the city council and that is more the point they are making. The City is under an obligation to train their officers, not the gun club. The liability is on the city, not the gun club, it is called "leverage". they'll work it out. Untwist your panties. The City can byuild a range, which they should have anyway, or they or the gun club will have to make concessions.

PC @ 1/30/2013 10:43 AM

I can see this happening more and more. Unfortunately most LE agencies do not have their own ranges especially ones designed for rifles. I belong to a Sportsman club that has an NRA designed and approved range allows anything that is legally owned to be fired there from .22 to cannons. Because most of the public ranges in the state have closed down or restrict gun usage due insurance reasons many of the Fed, State and Local agencies have asked to use our range for training purposes. I could see this same thing happening if laws are passed that keep some of our members from enjoying gun ownership and that would severely restrict where the PO's can sharpen their skills.

morg @ 1/30/2013 11:52 AM

Any private business establishment has the right to refuse service. I wish more businesses would simply hang signs that say "Politicians Are NOT Welcome Here".

Jim A @ 1/30/2013 1:38 PM

You cannot blame the gun club for their actions! Point your finger at the idiotic city council that voted to exclude high-capacity magazines and semi-auto rifles. The gun club is just following the law. Now, when the city council members call because their families are threatened, the police should go back to the station, collect their lower capacity pistol magazines and MUSKETS, then respond at the speed limit to the "emergency". Liberalism is killing this country. Common sense has left the building.

John @ 1/30/2013 2:04 PM

Like it or not, the vast majority of U.S. law enforcement officers are employed by government entities. I assume most officers are politically conservative, yet they are required to enforce all laws. Even the ones passed by left wing extremists who want to disregard or re write the Constitution (especially our Bill of Rights). Unfortunately, our military personnel and l.e.o.'s are not really employed to protect the Constitution, but to enforce the laws passed by politicians. Many of these politicians are elected due to heavily biased reporting from our "mainstream media", brainwashing by public school educators, use of public money to buy votes in swing (ie rust belt) states, support from foreign governments/corporations and votes from foreign born (some whom entered this country illegally) U.S. citizens.

Driverx @ 1/30/2013 2:50 PM

I feel bad for the police caught in the middle... I believe that the Lamoille Valley Fish and Game Club were well within their rights also. Now here is my take... If our governments are going to castrate the Constitution and rule over the populace like the overlords they believe they should be... What goes for the civilians MUST go for the Military and LEO community. Time to dust off those .38 and .357 wheelguns, the old 12 gauge pumps and replace "patrol assault rifles" with nice friendly BOLT ACTION wood stocked rifles. It goes the same for military, revolvers and 1903 Springfields... No more fancy tanks, nuclear powered ships or fancy jet fighters! Reset the arms race to around 1894!

Ja Tu @ 1/31/2013 7:35 AM

The club punched those corrupt politicians where it hurts, in the wallet. The police dept will now need the city to build (and pay for) a range that will cost significantly more then using the clubs range. I can't think of a better way to protest than to hit the cities politicians in the wallet...I bet they never considered that when they made their fear driven, ill-informed, self serving decision to pass the ban.

Mad Max @ 3/13/2013 3:07 PM

@ Ja Tu

I must respectfully disagree with your line of thinking in your comment. Though you are correct that the city will be hit in the pocket book by the action that the gun club felt necessary to take. It will be the LEO's and the taxpayers who will ultimately bear the brunt both institutionally and financially. The only liability to the political functionaries will be during the reelection season. Both the LEO unions and the gun club business owner should invest to get the politicians who actions led to this situation voted out.

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