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Fullerton Chief Will Fight Kelly Thomas Cop's Attempt to be Reinstated

January 20, 2014  | 

Fullerton, Calif.'s chief of police said he would fight an appeal from one of the officers acquitted in the death of Kelly Thomas to get his job back, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Jay Cicinelli was fired after being charged by Orange County prosecutors with involuntary manslaughter and excessive force in the 2011 death of the mentally ill homeless man.

His co-defendant Manuel Ramos, also a former Fullerton police officer, was charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter.

Last Monday a Santa Ana jury found both of them not guilty of all charges.



Tags: Fullerton (Calif.) PD, Kelly Thomas Beating, Officer Fired


Comments (10)

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Capt. Crunch @ 1/20/2014 1:08 PM

WTF chief if they are not guilty give them their job back.

Ordianry Joe @ 1/20/2014 1:12 PM

The people of Fullerton don't want them back.

JH @ 1/20/2014 1:51 PM

Can not blame the Chief on this one.. How many of you would want to be partnered up with someone that has that big of a target on his back.

Troop @ 1/20/2014 7:04 PM

The rule of law has spoken. Not guilty means they are presumed to not have done the alleged crime. They should get their jobs back.

Officer Igoddakwikweschin @ 1/20/2014 11:06 PM

I'm not learned in Civil Court procedures, but in not letting the officers come back, isn't that like the chief saying he thought they did something wrong? Seems it would make it easier for the transient's people to win lawsuit against FPD. If the chief wasn't going to let them come back, I would think he shouldn't have said that in public. JM2C

CJ degree @ 1/21/2014 6:47 AM

IF a person can be denied a job with the government based solely on a charge(NOT conviction), a charge, and they are! These charges fall into that catagory. The officers are clearly a possible liability.

Serpico @ 1/21/2014 8:06 PM

It's a shame those who killed Kelly, got away. But the Law is the Law, that includes enforcing immigration laws, oh no Fullerton is a sanctuary city! I don't like the verdict. But the same people who are ok with mentally ill person, getting killed. Need to look in the mirror. Do you only Enforce laws out of "your convenience ?" And the convenience of the Ruling Elite? That his hypocrisy! The Evidence in the Zimmerman case pointed to Z being innocent. The evidence in the KT case points to the guilt of the LEOs. LEO who commit crimes are criminals! Duh! It's not Anti-LEO. It's for Truth & Justice. Old American values! Too bad much of KT supporters are from the Occupy moment and want Anarchy. But they make others like me look bad. I'd like to appeal to your altruism, do your own detective "work" on KT case. John & Ken are jerks most of the time. But even a jerk can be right every now and again. Aren't LEO's supposed to look @ all the evidence? And be Objective? That's all I'm asking for!

RFMJ @ 1/21/2014 10:45 PM

Spent 3 1/2 yrs in CHP Internal Affairs reviewing internal investigations that resulted in discipline from written memos up to termination. Here's my 2 cents. If an internal investigation was done and sustained dept policy violations that resulted in the death of a citizen, that could justify a firing. And that should have been done before trial. It can still be done, just looks like revenge. But the FBI is looking into possible civil rights violations. Those will probably be felonies. If convicted of a felony, the COP can just terminiate them for failure to meet the qualifications for being a peace officer in California (no felony convictions).

D1726S @ 1/23/2014 3:47 AM

I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE, IF OFFICER CICINELLI WAS GIVEN A DIABILITY RETIREMENT BY LAPD, WHILE HE WAS A PROBATIONARY OFFICER, HOW DID HE GET HIRED AS A PATROL OFFICER IN FULLERTON? IN MOST STATES OFFICERS GRANTED A DISABILITY RETIREMENT ARE PROHIBITED FROM BEING EMPLOYED BY ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AS A PATROL OFFICER. IF AN OFFICER IS RETIRED (STANDARD RETIREMENT) IN MOST CASES HE CAN WORK FOR AN AGENCY OUTSIDE HIS JURISDICTION, UNLESS IT PAYS INTO THE SAME RETIREMENT SYSTEM. IF HE IS UNABLE TO WORK PATROL FOR LAPD, HOW CAN HE WORK PATROL FOR FULLERTON PD, NOT TO MENTION THE ALMOST $40,000 IN DISABILITY INCOME. LAPD PENSION BOARD "WAS" GOING TO LOOK INTO THE SITUATION WHEN IT CAME TO THEIR ATTENTION! THEY THEN BACKED OFF! WHAT'S UP IN CALIFORNIA. I REALIZE THE FULLERTON OFFICERS WERE FOUND NOT GUILTY, BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER WHY CICINELLI WAS COLLECTING ALMOST $40,00 AND HIS FULLERTON PAY AT THE SAME TIME. SOMETHING SOUNDS FISHY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!

Officer Justice @ 6/14/2014 8:05 AM

The chief shouldn't let those guys back on the force. Yes, they were found not guilty, but the fact is they were involved in the death of mentally disabled homeless man screaming for help. They were caught on video doing this, and although a jury of their "peers" found them not guilty, the people of Fullerton have eyes, ears, and the ability to judge for themselves. It is bad publicity and frankly, this dept needs all the positive publicity it can get.

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