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Judge Sets Murder Trial for Fullerton Ex-Cops

June 10, 2013  | 

Screenshot via RT.
Screenshot via RT.
The two former Fullerton (Calif.) Police officers charged in the in-custody death of schizophrenic transient Kelly Thomas will face charges together in a trial set to begin Oct. 18, an Orange County Superior Court judge ruled Friday.

Former Cpl. Jay Cicinelli was seeking to have his trial seperately from co-defendant and former Officer Manuel Ramos. Judge William Froeberg denied that request.

A third co-defendant charged in the death of Thomas is scheduled to appear before Judge Froeberg on July 12. Former Officer Joe Wolfe has requested that charges be dismissed against him, reports NBC Los Angeles.

Wolfe and Cicinelli have been charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive force, while Ramos has been charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter.

Thomas died as a result of an altercation with five Fullerton PD officers near a transit center on July 5, 2011.

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krisnlc @ 6/10/2013 4:00 PM

Please give us more information... how did it happen, what lead to it, how did it develop. Cops have a very difficult job...they are the first to go in to a knowling dangerous situation..where anything can happen and the result can be grave. unless it is proven that the police officers acted in a malicious, sadistic indifferent manner with this person...they should not be prosecuted..

WebEdPaul @ 6/10/2013 5:20 PM

@krisnlc You can read the background on this case by clicking on the Kelly Thomas link in the above story. Thanks!

Renee @ 6/11/2013 5:24 AM I suggest watching the video.
What makes me saddest about this video and the following comments is...this guy was NOT on something, he was mentally ill. These officers were beating this guy with billy clubs, flashlights, knees, fists and anything they could get there hands on. They kept telling him to put his hands behind his back, and he told them more than once he could not. That was in part due to the way they had him subdued. He apologized, prayed to God, cried out for help and everything. Then they stood around trying to decide what they were gonna do, all the while he lay dying. They should be ashamed for always assuming someone is high without ever considering their mental health. This WAS too much force, and someone should have to answer for it. He was sitting on the ground when first approached, and attacked by the original officer. He was provoked, then beaten to death...SMH

I think (and it's just my opinion), too many officers, with no one clearly in the lead giving commands. The officer who shows up late, and whips out the flashlight and starts beating the guy with it, was a bit over the top. They had him down, and he was already dying by then.

JaTu @ 6/11/2013 7:25 AM

Renee, you are a sheep with bliners on, living in your "Leave it to Beaver" world where all the bad in the world will go away if we just hugged each other.

Eli @ 6/11/2013 7:47 AM

I don't know, it seems to me when you apporach a person by telling them something close to the effect of, "You know what this is? It's the fist that's gonna be beating the shit out of you soon," there just might be a problem with the professionlism of the police officer saying it. I totally agree with Renee above. I'm glad the officers will have they day in court. This way, all the facts will be heard and their fate will be set one way or the other.

harry @ 11/14/2013 5:54 PM

Dittos Renee!! I've also read that this guy Kelly had 90 plus run contacts with the police. So my take on that fact is the cops had to have known about this guy.

And to you JaTu, you are just plain wrong dude!!! I don't know how in the world you could justify this.

I only wish that I could be on this jury, because I would send these cops away for a long long time!

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