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Video: Mich. Police Shooting Questioned

August 17, 2012  | 

VIDEO: Deadly Force In Michigan

Justice Department investigators opened a civil rights probe into the fatal shooting of a man with a history of mental illness by Saginaw Police Department officers.

On Thursday, CNN had aired footage of the incident the network purchased from a local videographer.

In the incident, which occurred in early July, a man identified as Milton Hall can be seen threatening Saginaw officers, who order him to put down the knife.

Moments later, the man falls after a hail of police gunfire. Officers fired 46 shots at Hall, CNN reports.

View CNN's full report here.

Tags: Michigan, Officer Involved Shootings, Deadly Force


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michael @ 8/17/2012 11:16 PM

I would like to hear the officers view on why so many rounds were fired. I think it seems a bit over the top at this point from what we are able to see. The media will have a free for all with this for months. This is a good example of where a Taser (shot gun) would have been a good choice to use first if they had one. These kinds of cases are occurring more and more especially with people with metal illness. Sad tragedy for all involved.

Bob@Az. @ 8/17/2012 11:17 PM

OK, I watched the video about five times and noted the view of the scence is blocked by vehicles driving by. Can't really see the actions of Mr.Hall prior to the Officers shooting, although I agree that over forty rounds does seem excessive. I wonder how many hits Mr.Hall took?

Bret @ 8/18/2012 7:21 PM

Great kill by the Saginaw Police Dept! A crazy man with a criminal record and a knife in his hand needs to be taken out for good. It sounds as if he would of stabbed the dog and the Police dogs life is worth a lot more than this guys life. Great work by our friends in Michigan.

Doug M. @ 8/20/2012 5:16 PM

Another crazy investigation from the feds. The shots seem to stop at about the time officers perceive the control of the threat. A person with a knife is a lethal threat at the distance that appears to be shown, although the video is not great due to distance and passing cars. This should be a modest report, 3 days admin leave, and back at the job from what is shown here.
The DOJ is generally no more qualified to conduct such investigation than I am to judge gymnastics at the Olympics.

Marco @ 8/20/2012 6:49 PM

How can the number of rounds have any importance on whether or not the use of force was excessive. If deadly force is authorized, and death is the ultimate amount of force to be used, can you cause too much death to one person? If you are correct in shooting, and don't stop until the threat is neutralized, what does it matter if it is 1 or 100 rounds?

John Wilson @ 8/20/2012 7:33 PM

The surpreme court has ruled years ago that it doesn't matter how many shots were fired if deadly force is authorized. A man can only die once and the number of rounds used to stop the threat are ilrelevan.

Tom Olson @ 8/21/2012 6:22 AM

Unbelievable I hope this person is not a cop. A Taser vs a knife really?! This is why this should be a controlled forum for real discussion. And for your information nearly everyone in the US can claim some type of mental illness. Someone with a serious mental illness is truly dangerous to deal with, try it sometime.

I copied this person's post verbatim see below:

michael @ 8/17/2012 11:16 PM

I would like to hear the officers view on why so many rounds were fired. I think it seems a bit over the top at this point from what we are able to see. The media will have a free for all with this for months. This is a good example of where a Taser (shot gun) would have been a good choice to use first if they had one. These kinds of cases are occurring more and more especially with people with metal illness. Sad tragedy for all involved.

SS @ 8/21/2012 6:27 AM

Seriously? We're trained shoot to kill. Not to injure or maim. That's why it's called deadly force. On top of it. This guy is already a nut. You don't know what he was going to do with the knife. I'm sure even you all know what he had intended to do with the knife. Good job to the officers. You all went home that night and that's all that counts.

michael @ 8/21/2012 5:00 PM

To Tom Olson, yes I am a LEO and have been for over 27 years. It is easy to say, "Taser vs knife" just shoot its justified. Let us look at circumstances, the officers are in an open area, the suspect is not advicing on the officers, there are no visible citizens in the immediate danger zone, there are at least 4 officers and you are telling me that not one of the officers could have used a Taser shot gun that could have had a better out come. Over the years, I have had to deal with many mentally ill people, I always try to think of the person being a loved one of mine or someone I know.
I am not saying that it is not a necessary action that we must take a persons life sometimes, but in this day and age we must utilize all resources first if possible.
That was my many point hear, yes this is a sad incident and I think we can do better.
Thats my opinion after many years of service, because the public will scrutinize our actions and make our lives miserable with law suits etc.....Like it or not, Law Enforcement has changed to the point we must show beyond a reasonable doubt that our actions were completely justified. Sorry if my thoughts upset some of you.

rookies4 @ 10/13/2012 7:22 AM

michael @

You sure don't sound like a cop...I've been one 30+ and I don't think of the bad guys loved ones... I'm worried about getting home alive. I don't think you are a bad troll but you sound more like a troll than cop.... There once was a sheriff who said to a reporter we shot 30+ times because that's all we had...I hope you are retired. I wouldn't want you behind me analyzing or thinking about the bad guys loved ones while I'm in the fight....

jennie @ 11/19/2012 9:55 AM

given the fact that milton hall only held a small knife, and the 6 or 7 officers were armed to the teeth, protected by vests and had a canine there also...... I don't think the officers were in immediate danger from the mentally ill man. they could have treated him like a human.

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