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Miami Chief Tells Force To End Cop v. Cop Tension

November 10, 2011  | 

VIDEO: Fla. Trooper Arrests Miami Cop at Gunpoint

Miami Police Chief Manuel Orosa addressed more than 40 of his officers Thursday morning, telling them to halt tensions with the Florida Highway Patrol, reports the Miami Herald.

Tensions between the agencies have escalated since Trooper Donna Wall pulled over Miami Officer Fausto Lopez and detained him at gunpoint in late October for speeding in his cruiser to an off-duty job. The trooper disarmed the officer and briefly handcuffed him before issuing a citation.

On Tuesday, Miami Police Officer Thomas Vokaty pulled over a uniformed trooper on the turnpike for speeding outside of his jurisdiction. Vokaty received a "record of formal counseling" for violating department policy.

On Saturday morning, Trooper Joe Sanchez awoke to find his cruiser defaced with five gallons of human feces, reports CBS.

Comments (24)

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Rick Los Angeles @ 11/10/2011 6:06 PM

...all this started because a stupid trooper misconduct with "fellow police officer" from another agency. I support the Miami police officers decision to show then at same level (not defecate) we are in the same side of line. There are so many bad guy's out there if you want show some action.

Leonard Mather @ 11/10/2011 6:09 PM

Speaking as a Forensic Psychologist who specialized in pro bono work in Arlington and Fairfax counties, VA and who taught at a local college, the best approach to the ill will is in line with Chief Orosa's approach. It is to seek the high ground, to focus on ethics and morals and especially compassion for those colleagues who fall short. It calls for Agape love, forgiveness and understanding of the unique stresses that officers experience. Rather than retaliation, a personal visit with the offending officer, a man to man leveling of similar feelings held in check and most of all conveying trust in believing he will see the error and improve. If a Chaplain is available to emphasize that a soft word turneth away wrath, that approach will touch upon Agape love also.

D. Sanchez @ 11/10/2011 6:18 PM

And these are the people that the public is sipposed to trust with their safety, with their neighborhoods, with their families....Yeah, wonder why the public has so much trust and respect for LAW ENFORCEMENT. These jackass cops just undid in on fell swoop what alot of good, smart cops took many many years to build. I get asked all the time,,,what would I do if a cop did this.....My answer, A Cop is not above the law, he is sworn to uphold and enforce the law. A bad cop, favortism to a fellow cop just goes to enforce the publics perception of the good ole boys club. Ask yourself, if it Joe citizen, black joe citizen, illegal joe citizen, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IN THE SAME SITUATION....How many cops get away with thay DUI, Domestic Abuse call or seemingly nothing incident only to have something go terribly wrong in the future. I personally know a LEO that wiped out a family of four in a DUI related TC....GROW UP...MAN UP...ACT LIKE THE COP YOU SWORE TO BE.

deezer @ 11/10/2011 6:24 PM

Get over it, MPD.....your guy was wrong....period. Yes, I've been a PD Officer, Deputy and Trooper....I know all the arguments.

dep-n-va @ 11/10/2011 6:24 PM

Miami cop wrong - trooper wrong (after determining car not stolen) move on and focus on the bad guys. I'm sure they are lovin it!

Tschako @ 11/10/2011 6:47 PM

Don't forget Fausto Lopez' part in this fiasco. He was speeding to his "off duty job" and didn't cooperate.
This was bound to happen, and regardless of what the brass says, the war is on. Think about it next time you stop an off duty officer.

E Warner @ 11/10/2011 7:16 PM

The Trooper should have contacted the off duty Miami Police Officers command and notified his supervisor and handle it in an administrative manner. The last time I checked, speeding was not a criminal offense, only an infraction, unless of course if the trooper is looking to flake the Miami cop and make a big tadoo. Further more there should be a little discretion used by all parties concerned!! Just my opinion, I think I still have the right to express that. Shame on you FHP!!!!

Knights @ 11/10/2011 7:43 PM

I think any cop who arrests another cop or retired cop is twisted and takes his job over the limit. 10-15 years ago, this kind of action was unheard of, unless the officer committed a serious crime. The things that are going on today amount to feelings getting hurt or egos taking over.

Get a grip and stand-up for fellow officers, they are the ones that will not hesitate to help you when the chips are down and some guy is ready to hand you your ass!

Ol Miss @ 11/10/2011 7:50 PM

Courtesy is a form of respect. Respect is earned.
Hold yourself to a higher standard.

workinman @ 11/10/2011 9:15 PM

We all saw the video, we all should of head the radio traffic. Was Lopez wrong, yeah. Cops in general drive with a sense of urgency anyways. Was the trooper wrong Hell Yeah. I never heard her say anything about a stolen car in the released radio traffic. I did hear her supervisor tell her to stand down. She did then continued pursuing w/out lights or sirens until she caught up to Lopez. She had a chip on her shoulder and let personal feelings effect her work. I'm still not buying the 120mph story either.

Ron @ 11/11/2011 12:57 AM

Hey all you experienced LEO's and Monday morning shrinks, the trooper still drew her firearm on another human being let alone a fellow officer was it really at that threat level!

d. elliott @ 11/11/2011 5:09 AM

It is bad enough to see this BS and the aftermath. Thank you workinman for the additional information. Certainly puts things in perspective. Also, why is Policemag allowing all of these negative and obviously anti-cop postings by civilians like D. Sanchez. Why don't you find yourself a nice anti-everything site to post on and, incidentally, it is "supposed" not "sipposed." If you are going to insult my profession at least check your spelling.

RV @ 11/11/2011 5:28 AM

I don't buy the 120 MPH thing. If the FHP Office had to pull another patrol car for a GOOD REASON then all she had to do was ask him "What's the rush? Why are you speeding like that?..The officer would have appoligized,explained the situation and the incident is over. If she wanted to call his supervisor,fine. Understandable..but pulling him out of his Patrol Unit @ GUN POINT....DISARMING HIM & HANDCUFFING HIM...And then telling him...YOU'RE A CRIMINAL...was way out of line and TOTALY DISRESPECTFUL....Both Officer should be be written up,but the FHP Officer need MENTAL HELP or a stern counseling session with her supervisor's. It's a SAD day for Law Enforcement when something like this happens, Very sad..On a final note...How many officer exceed the speed limit everyday on there way to or from work or in there patrol unit on duty everyday? We all know the answer....RESPECT PEOPLE....RESPECT.

Erick Becker @ 11/11/2011 5:46 AM

Perhaps the female trooper should have thought about what her actions were going to lead to. She is very lucky that there wasn't a physical or blue on blue deadly force confrontation. The Miami officer was wrong but, her actions were not appropriate. Who's accepting the fecal contributions for her car, I just ate a large bowl of Texas Chili!

Tom Ret @ 11/11/2011 8:09 AM

A lot of us here with many years of experience could see bad things happening after the initial incident because of the way it was handled irrespective of the officer being wrong when speeding. There are good reasons why this incident if handled internally would not have led to what is happening now. There is a natural human desire for payback or to hold the other agency to the same standard that was applied to the Miami officer. I would suggest that Miami PD act professionally and try to put this incident behind them as hard as it may be. Retribution will not lead to anything good for either agency. If the Florida troopers want or desire to have a good working relationship with other agencies they need to have a proper protocol in place so incidents like this don't happen again.

bldhd @ 11/11/2011 8:12 AM

They were both wrong. If the FHP story is true the Miami cop should get 5 to 10 days off. The FHP trooper should never work the road again. A desk assignment forever.

Luis @ 11/11/2011 8:36 AM

I support the Miami Police Department. If a trooper is speeding they should get the same treatment they gave a city Officer.

Rojo @ 11/11/2011 8:50 AM

These kind of pissing matches between depts around this country needs to stop. This all started because a city cop violated the law, and was charged for it. He was in the wrong, and should of just pulled over instead of leading the trooper in a high speed reckless pursuit. His dept will deal with his actions accordingly. There is no need for things to go as far as they have.

Getmethetruth @ 11/11/2011 9:49 AM

Does anyone know if his speed was caught on video or is it a case of her word over his? Did the trooper receive any punishment for disobeying her supervisor? To D. Sanchez I pulled all the the above peaple you mentioned but what I like to say to you is tha the public as well as my supervisors entrusted me with discretion and I use it. I have run into some a**hole officers that should have ticketed but I had my supervisor contact their supervisor. All I have to say to this super trooper was wrong for her overly aggressive attitude toward another officer of the law. Do you know who comes out the winner of this all "the bad guys I'll bet they are just loving this. That's my thoughts on this matter.

Mark @ 11/11/2011 4:29 PM

All evidence at this time leads me to believe that the female trooper lied when she stopped the Miami patrol unit. No radio transmissions indicated her belief that the vehicle was stolen. Her tactics indicate that she did not believe that the vehicle was stolen as she did not conduct a felony car stop and instead walked up quickly to the window of the police car. And finally, she observed a fully uniformed police officer and her tactics in no way indicated that she was fearful that the officer had stolen the vehicle. It is real obvious to me that the trooper had an ulterior motive and was mad the officer was speeding on "her" freeway. If that trooper would have tried to disarm or handcuff me, she would have been handcuffed herself.

This video should have never been released and should have been handled between agencies.

Rainer @ 11/12/2011 1:17 AM

Why did Tropper Wall act in this way?
Why didn´t Officer Lopez stop??
Did something happen before this incident?
Is it a "fight" between two agencies....or a problem between these two officers??
Only the two officers can give the answers. So, stop the conflict, calm down and focus on the job, and yours is still very dangerous!

Cano @ 11/13/2011 9:25 AM

This goes on in every state so it's nothing new but I will still stop and give a hand in any situation. Some agency hates your agency cause you represent a larger force. If that's what makes your day so you could brag about it , that's on you. Just because you're retired it doesn't make you a BAD GUY ! WE ALL GET TO RETIRED & HATE TO GET STOP BY AN ASSHOLE !

Getem @ 11/14/2011 4:45 AM

Miami PD is loaded with idiots! This just shows that they are! There is no reason for this childish BS......!

Hugh @ 11/14/2011 5:13 PM

If you expect to be treated as a professional you first have to act professionally! Just because you have the authority as a LEO doesn't mean you should abuse it because you were running late for an extra job!! The trooper also could have handled that in a more professional manner! Placing him in the rear of the patrol vehicle while you contact his supervisor, see what he wants you to do!!

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