Fellow Officers Help Bail Out Fullerton Cop
September 29, 2011
A group of fellow officers have banded together to support Fullerton (Calif.) Police officer Miguel Ramos, raising the $1 million in bail to ensure his release while he awaits trial in the beating death of Kelly Thomas.
Officer Ramos, who was captured in an audio recording telling Thomas his fists "are getting ready to f--- you up" prior to chasing him down, was released from Orange County Jail at 2:20 a.m. this morning.
The two charged officers won't recieve pay while they face charges, reports the Los Angeles Times.
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Don Cordell @ 9/29/2011 11:55 PM
If 6 citizens are involved in crime that only 2 citizens do a crime, all 6 are charged. I believe the other 4 officers are just as guilty since they did not step in and stop this beating. Sorry but this is not how to Serve and Protect Americans. Mr Kelly Thomas was not confrontational, was not resisting, they knew who he was, this is not how we expect to be treated with trained officers. Officer Ramos was not a rookie, he knew how to perform his duties, this is an absolute crime against the citizens of Fullerton.
MGYSGT Thomas J. Nels @ 9/30/2011 7:20 AM
Don were you on seen at the time what was happening were you able to see hear everything that was going down how many chances did Mr Thomas get their are a million things going on at a time like that and you have seconds at times even less you seem to think you have all intel how much are you missing was this a( RC) Radio call or a random stop. REMEMBER THE OFFICER HAS RIGHTS .Let the court try him.
Tom Ret @ 9/30/2011 8:22 AM
Don Cordell- You are entitled to your opinion but your comments tell me you are not a cop, have never been one, and probably never had to detain or arrest someone who does not want to cooperate and fights your efforts to detain or arrest. Your characterization of Thomas sounds extremely naive to me. If I understand your position, you think Thomas did not run off, cooperated fully when Ramos contacted him iniitally, and was pummeled by the officers as he lay limp on the ground. It has been reported that Thomas had a history of being a violence prone ex felon.
Is that true? Your statement that they knew who he was means what-
that they should let him go if he runs off? Didn't Ramos respond to a call of a subject who was attempting car prowls? Are you suggesting Officer Ramos just ignore enforcing the law and ignore the call as it is just not
important enough to bother with?
To suggest that the other officers who arrived on the scene to assist should be charged with something is ridiculous. All they are likely to know when they arrived on the scene is officers trying to get a subject under control. If Thomas is laying limp as you suggest, there would be no need for addition units, no need to secure his legs, no need to lay on him, no need for the stun gun etc.
The fact that Ramos' fellow officers are putting up his bail tells me that they believe they could be in Ramos' shoes and this is not a case of
officers intentionally beating a subject to death who was laying limp and offering no resistance.
We need to let the court and a jury determine if the officer's actions were justified and not excessive force and give them a fair unbiased hearing. When you are not the one doing the fighting I would suggest not being too quick to judge. The job may be a lot tougher than you imagine it to be.
richard isaacs @ 10/3/2011 8:01 PM
WOW, COPS SUPPORTING COPS. YOU DON'T SEE THAT ON THE WEST COAST VERY OFTEN.
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