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NFL Bans Off-Duty Carry

October 07, 2013  | 

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The National Football League will deny entry to any off-duty police officer who brings a concealed carry firearm to any of its facilities, according to a new league policy.

The policy, which went into effect Sept. 11, applies to off-duty officers from federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, reports the Plain Dealer.

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolman's Association, called the policy disappointing.

Tags: Concealed Carry, Off-Duty Carry, Event Management


Comments (108)

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JC @ 10/7/2013 7:23 PM

...love to see who they'd "let in" once the shooting rings out ...no on duty carry either, I'd suppose?

johng @ 10/7/2013 11:39 PM

They don't understand that they have now banned cops from NFL games, I know I won't leave my gun at home or worse in the car while at the stadium.

sundevil @ 10/8/2013 12:53 AM

Funny, if your firearm is concealed how will security at an NFL game ever know???....The NFL can say whatever they want, doesn't mean I have to leave my weapon at home....

James @ 10/8/2013 3:46 PM

I won't spend any more money on the NFL, plain and simple.

SA John @ 10/8/2013 3:47 PM

I bring my firearm, any time, on any airplane in the U.S. but not to an NFL game. We have mandatory off-duty carry... so it is to the WNBA I go.

tlb064 @ 10/8/2013 3:48 PM

Seems like many are too blind realize an asset when they see it. I would rather watch the game from the best seat in "my house" anyway.

Firecop @ 10/8/2013 3:50 PM

How can their policy suercede federal law? HR218 says they can't do this. We need a bunch turned away and then a healthy lawsuit. That will remove this stupid policy.

SgtIPD @ 10/8/2013 3:52 PM

Good luck on that Sundevil at our stadium-males are checked by metal detection and all females starting this year have to have the clear or small purse bags that are searched. I'll watch the games from home if I'm lucky enough to be off and not around the stadium working.

jay @ 10/8/2013 3:52 PM

What a dumb ass. Now you guys see why the players hate Roger. What even sad is most NFL teams heads of security are retired cops. I bet they take there shit in the ball park. Father U C King you Roger.

Hank @ 10/8/2013 3:53 PM

sundevil
Last time I went to a baseball game, they had metal detectors, I was wanded and they demanded I empty my pockets! That's how they are going to know if you are carrying.
I objected and was told it was for "my safety".
I told them I would take care of my own safety and if they were going to deny me entry, they could refund the $100 I spent on tickets. They did!

JM @ 10/8/2013 4:00 PM

Appalling, sad, and wrong. I realize they may have never had trouble at a game, but what a wonderful venue for a terrorist attack, and now unarmed off duty cops can’t help. I guess they think football games are exempt from mall shootings, etc…

Victor Louie @ 10/8/2013 4:02 PM

As a Law Enforcement Officer (retired) and still allow to carry, they will not get another dime from me. Even thou I love my Brownie's, but I will now watch them from the comfort of my easy chair or at my local sport's bar!!!!!

David @ 10/8/2013 4:06 PM

What this is creating is a perfect kill zone event that our gun free zones are being known so well as. I suppose since strict gun control works so well in DC and Chicago then let's apply it to the only ones left in a stadium rich with targets to make sure no one can shoot back. Ridiculous.. What exactly make an officer anyway, the clothes?

bob retired leo @ 10/8/2013 4:09 PM

Well no more NFL games for me. I am retired and carry a concealed weapon for my protection. I guess these millionaires are anti-gun also. They just gave some psycho the ok to come in and injure many, as now they know there are no off duty law officers in the house that are armed. So now NFL, why don't you let your fans know with all the billions you make you are registered as a not for profit business. Unbelievable. I lived in Canada 3 years and one year they had everyone turn in their guns even if you had a permit. They then, if I recall let you just keep long guns for hunting.

mickey @ 10/8/2013 4:10 PM

How does this jive with federal law?

Boston @ 10/8/2013 4:10 PM

This absolutely makes no sense to me what so ever. So its Screw LEO's the people who protect everyone including the overpaid players. No more NFL games for me. Let's start writing NFL and tell them how this is wrong.

bman @ 10/8/2013 4:11 PM

How stupid. I never thought the NFL would go one step further than the gun control libs. Is this their way of saying they will someday control their players stop them from shooting others or themselves? Gun free zones make lots of victims. Great job NFL.

MediCop @ 10/8/2013 4:11 PM

After serving full-time for many years, I am not a reserve deputy. I am authorized by my agency to carry at all times. I recently went to a major league baseball game and saw the "no firearms" sign. I hailed one of the local officers working extra-job at the game. He told me that it was MLB's rule...but went on to say that none of the officer he knew would enforce it. He told me that if I was flagged for random wanding, just to ask them to summon one of the 30+ officers working and they would see to it that I past through security with ease. I went to 3 games that weekend and carried each and every time. Heck...it isn't the game that I was concerned with...it was the 3 block walk back to my car after the game!

MediCop @ 10/8/2013 4:12 PM

Correction to above post: I am NOW a reserve deputy.

Bob@Az. @ 10/8/2013 4:18 PM

What did you expect from the NFL? I wonder how many LEOs, both federal & local, are not going to games? And how about the advertisers? I wonder how they the would feel about losing all that LE money? Why should I buy a product that is advertised at an event I can't attend in person? Oh, and by the way, when that nutcase goes off at the gate and takes out the security, don't dial 911, just direct him to the owners booths. Blues, Stay Safe.

Dwight @ 10/8/2013 4:20 PM

Well I guess no more NFL games for me, they cost to much anyway. Just as soon eat and drink a beer while watching it at home. The list of places that don't want armed officers in the crowd seems to be growing as we can see it certainly helped military base safety when soldiers couldn't have guns.

Ron T @ 10/8/2013 4:30 PM

This is so dumb the NFL bans Leo's from carrying but thay don't address the fact that several NFL players have been or currently are under inditment for assault and or murder with a gun. Yet thay do not trust a police officer who is required to have his gun with him or her at all times as department policy.I guess if this what the NFL wants then I for one will not go to or watch any more games I guess the NFL feels thay are more powerful than the federal government and that they do not have to obey the law HR-318 is in fact a law .

Buck @ 10/8/2013 4:33 PM

Havent these morons who run the NFL ever seen "Two Minute Warning"? They want me to take my family to a game, pay $200+ dollars, and have no way to protect them? Screw the NFL, bunch of overpaid crybabies. Real men (and women) wear a badge...or play hockey!!!

I wonder @ 10/8/2013 4:40 PM

Is it me, or are we as cops being systematically dis-armed? I mean, first Denny's, then Buffalo Wild Wings, last week the Tucson School District, and now the NFL.......

namdray @ 10/8/2013 4:41 PM

And putting it in effect on 9/11 to boot. Bravo, NFL, on your perfect timing.

GP Cobb @ 10/8/2013 4:43 PM

If I had my say, I'd have NFL games banned period ending. Till they pull their head our of their A$$. I see Agenda21 and affordable health care is instantly occurring. Sad Sad Sad.

Eric @ 10/8/2013 4:46 PM

That's because the players have guns!

POINTMAN380 @ 10/8/2013 4:46 PM

You know it doesn't bother me so much that they enacted this ridiculous policy. Its their league, they can do what they want as long as they are ok with losing money because of it. What does infuriate me to no end is that they dd this on September 11th. The day when this country honors and pays tribute to our heroes (namely the fire and police who gave their lives defendng the innocent). So for that reason alone I will never spend another dime on the NFL. Not to mention I am a Cowboys fan by birth and this sounds like a good time to walk away anyway. Stay safe brothers.

db @ 10/8/2013 4:52 PM

What I find most disappointing is the fact that Jeff Miller, the former Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police, was hired by the NFL as Director of Strategic Security. One of his roles is stadium security. This is why he was hired so I have to assume that he feels taking weapons away from active and retired police officers is going to make stadiums safer. His Linkedin profile lists his occupation as Vice President & Chief Security Officer at National Football League. I'd love to hear a comment from him!!!!

Bill @ 10/8/2013 4:55 PM

Besides the absurd ticket prices, expensive food, and finding a parking place, this is just another good reason to avoid going to an NFL football game...

Capt. Crunch @ 10/8/2013 5:11 PM

Screw them I'll watch TV.

Old timer @ 10/8/2013 5:19 PM

Wake up. There is an element in our society that wants to disarm citizens...including us. This is just the beginning.....every time you hear someone say hey no one should have guns except cops....remember we will be next....

David McDonald @ 10/8/2013 5:26 PM

For what reason has this been done? What we know is that it is a great possibility hostile attacks from foreign as well as American suspects will be targeting major venues. Why would you not want every capable and sworn LEO being available to save a life? Sad times, when you are believed in only while in uniform. There is not any acceptable reason.

Mike @ 10/8/2013 5:28 PM

I'd say it is time that police agencies that provide services to the NFL stop completely! If they take the stance that off duty and retired officers are some type of threat to the NFL/games then they don't need to be assisted by uniformed officers. This is a slap in the face to law enforcement and their attempt at gun control!

Texas abides @ 10/8/2013 5:32 PM

Won't fly in Texas. State law doesn't allow a business owner to disarm or exclude armed officers, even when they are off duty. This applies to out of state officers and even Feds as well.

MB @ 10/8/2013 5:33 PM

Another of many reasons to say screw the NFL and just watch college. What idiot had this brain storm.

Harris3550 @ 10/8/2013 5:42 PM

They didn't see the last batman. How Bane took over. Haaaaa good luck with that NFL command staff. I like watching the games in the comfort of my home and use the bathroom as I please without standing in line. Oh and I get to get drunk as hell and go to bed.

TheRookie @ 10/8/2013 5:55 PM

Bobit Publishing, I hope you forward these comments to the NFL Commissioner. I quit going to games after what they did to their own players, and refs. I've emailed Goodell, and called their league HQ's before ripping them. I'll do it again when I get off here. It is absolutely disgusting, and appalling to have this mentality. Hope he needs a cop soon. I would either have to take a priority call over his, or if off duty walk away. What an ass.

John R. Fonseca @ 10/8/2013 6:11 PM

Great, another "criminal friendly zone".

Kevin Harris @ 10/8/2013 6:20 PM

I agree with Tx, AZ State Law allows any State Certified Officer to be armed 24hrs a day anywhere in the State of AZ and an officer can NOT be forced to disarm. I will join the Civil Suit if they try it with us in AZ. Perhaps a refusal will result in a false arrest and then an even larger reward. This will be penny wise and very dollar foolish! I recommend that ALL Officers everywhere that the law allows them to carry to confront the NFL and refuse to disarm or to leave if you have a lawful reason to be there.

GP Cobb @ 10/8/2013 6:20 PM

They can Ban the NFL for all I care till they get their head out of their A$$. This is just what Rome did before it fell, worshiped sports. Guys it [NFL] is NOT a god nor does it replace our Second Amendment rights; cop or no. Thanks for letting me vent.

FKLNCOP @ 10/8/2013 6:53 PM

"The NFL will deny entry to any off-duty police officer who brings a concealed carry firearm to any of its facilities, according to a new league policy".

Sounds good to me! ... Let's all go off-duty to a game and carry our non-concealed firearms on our hip! We will be following THEIR Policy, so they shouldn't deny us entry....Right?

RK @ 10/8/2013 7:00 PM

What are they going to do if we go in anyway, call the police?

EJ @ 10/8/2013 7:07 PM

Heinz field has been like this for years. PNC Park and a number of other MLB parks allow off-duty carry and Security records your seat number, check your creds and you bypass wanding at the gate. PNC Park security was very cooperative with no questions asked. Kudos to MLB Forget the NFL

gary @ 10/8/2013 7:09 PM

The NFL does not care if ODO refuse to go to games, and they don't care if you are upset. They are probably convinced that all ODO get drunk, create disturbances, and assault others.
My refusing to go to an NFL game would not be a good protest- I've never attended one and have had no desire to.

LeRoy @ 10/8/2013 7:14 PM

How stupid. Another "Unarmed Victim Zone." I'll watch from the comfort of my living room, wait for some idiot to kill or injure a bunch of fans in the stadium, and then I'll say, "I told you so." The way to get this reversed is for every cop, law enforcement agency, and citizen who believes in the Second Amendment - to boycott the NFL.

Doc @ 10/8/2013 7:14 PM

Political Correctness gone Crazy again, but this will cost the NFL, now that they created a Huge "gun free zone". They have invited people to break the record for the number of people killed in a mass murder.

Boycott the NFL, just like anyone else that stands with Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood. Vote in every election and vote the issues, so we can get rid of the Liberals. These comments need to be sent to the NFL, and the rule on women's purses is to prevent food from being brought in, so they can chisel every Dollar out of the People. Let the Liberals support the NFL and be there for the Mass Murder.

Marshal @ 10/8/2013 7:23 PM

Maybe departments should stop having their officers at the games or helping in any way.

John @ 10/8/2013 7:24 PM

I found this on a blog post. Not sure if it is current: Email: [email protected]

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell at (212) 450-2000

There is strength in numbers. Send your comments and call!

Hoshi @ 10/8/2013 7:29 PM

We'll no NFL games for me, oh, I don't watch football anyway. Hope the Baseball and Hockey leagues don't follow suit.

Chuck @ 10/8/2013 7:52 PM

So, does this mean the NFL accepts full responsibility and 100% of the liability for off-duty Officers' safety while at a game?

Maybe all LE agencies should cancel any contracts providing security for NFAL games or teamss.

UncleMike @ 10/8/2013 7:57 PM

Oh well....
Another "Free fire zone" for the Terrorists and the nut cases to take advantage of.
God help this country.
I don't recognize it any more.....

ExFed @ 10/8/2013 8:28 PM

And, on top of this lunacy, just finished watching Frontline, which exposed the NFL 's active efforts to suppress information about Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy -- even to the point of abusing the physicians and neuroscientists and surviving family members who were trying to highlight the issue among former NFL players. Great job, NFL....

Jack Betz @ 10/8/2013 8:41 PM

Why oh why do the brain dead want to ban things. No anti gun sign yet has stopped a crime from happening.

GAPP @ 10/8/2013 9:30 PM

Hope the NFL publicizes it's new policy so that all will know of the new free fire zones now open to the anti-socials. I seem to remember a couple of movies covering the theme of a shooter at a major game and the destruction caused, a little by the shooter, a lot by the herd mentality once stampeded. Maybe the major broadcasting networks could do some reruns to remind the board of the potential mayhem that they have obviously forgotten about.

HRPufnstuf @ 10/8/2013 10:46 PM

New sideline chant (All together now):
NFL! GO TO HELL!
NFL! GO TO HELL!
NFL! GO TO HELL!

Georg @ 10/8/2013 11:21 PM

NFL... NATIONAL FELONS LEAGUE! So... does this mean that the NFL execs are going to have their personal security personnel unarmed as well? Not likely...

SouthFla Deputy @ 10/8/2013 11:26 PM

doesn't surprise me. I stopped going to NFL games about 4 years ago. the people are like animals, drunk and angry. the weather at Joe Robbie/ Pro player/ dolphin stadium (whatever the name is this week) is either rain or oppressive, broiling heat. you always wind up soaked and filthy. I would never, ever bring a date, my wife, or my kids to a game. its always a horrible experience. bad, expensive food in the stadium is a rip off and should be avoided. 21 years of experience has made me a water drinker, never alcohol in a setting like an NFL stadium, where a fight will surely break out. I decided years ago that bringing a concealed firearm into a mix like that was a really bad idea, so now I just don't go. you can't be investigated or sued if you're not there. sorry NFL, I quit you a long time ago.

Mark @ 10/9/2013 12:02 AM

Remember this a rule not a law. Police officers have no authority to enforce a house rules. Also many stadiums are paid by publicly funded tax money so the stadiums are considered public venues. The NFL can make a rule but most law enforcement agencies can not enforce a house rule.

Milton Schick @ 10/9/2013 12:06 AM

Kevin Harris was precisely correct about Arizona. A LEO was told by an assistant manager of a movie theater he could not be armed while in the theater. A few days later, after the theater was informed of Arizona State Law, that AM was fired. The below is a message I just now posted to the NFL on their website.

"I was just informed of the policy initiated on 11 September of barring any off-duty law enforcement officer, Federal or state or local, from attending a NFL game while armed (which would be concealed). Your new policy is illegal in Arizona. Arizona State Law allows any State Certified Officer to be armed 24hrs a day anywhere in the State of Arizona, and an officer can NOT be forced to disarm. This is Arizona State Law. If you wish to operate within Arizona, you have no choice but to follow Arizona State Law. Certain movie theaters in Arizona have already had their attitudes changed regarding this matter. I suggest you discuss your new policy with your corporate lawyers, again."

TheRookie @ 10/9/2013 1:27 AM

Good one Milton. I'm retired from the Denver-Metro Area, and with their new gun laws I don't know. I know D.P.D. is very, very pro Law Enforcement. I had worked Invesco Fld. in the past. I retired to Kansas, and they allow 24/7, also. In Kansas City the stadium is in Missouri, and I don't trust that state at all. It's the state that banned Tuffy-the-Clown for wearing an Obama Mask.

Genghis Khan @ 10/9/2013 2:33 AM

Welcome to my world, officers. You ladies and gentlemen are sworn to protect the public. I'm "sworn" to protect my family and myself...and, just as you, I am well trained to do so. However, I am prevented from attending sporting events, schools, churches, malls, etc. Now you can experience a tiny bit of my frustration. This "gun free zone" mess just continues to expand and in doing so, the massacres will continue.

uslawman1983 @ 10/9/2013 2:50 AM

Back in the 90's, Eric Holder said in a speech that "we have to brainwash people into thinking guns are bad". I believe that is what's playing out here, our citizens are being indoctrinated into thinking guns are evil. . even in the hands of cops. As far as the NFL goes, ticket prices are ridiculous now anyway, coupled with the cost of stadium food and drink, t-shirts, etc. . . and rising stadium violence - And now I can't carry? Well thanks but no thanks. . I'll enjoy the games at home on my flatscreen.

sharpenit @ 10/9/2013 3:58 AM

So just weeks after terrorists murder scores of people at a mall in Kenya, the NFL says "Hey, Johnny Jihad, look at us, we're a free-fire zone!"

Jelly @ 10/9/2013 4:02 AM

Liberal thinking, if we take the guys away from the good people, then the bad will get rid of theirs. We all know as police officers how well those gun free zones work, right?  Oh man this Country is in trouble. I would be willing to bet that this isn’t what the NFL really wants but, their legal advice probably told them to put this out for liability reasons. In other words, if an off duty officer shoots somebody in a stadium, the NFL can wash their hands of the incident by saying, “we told them not to bring their gun in here”. If they really want to improve safety at a game they should throw the drunks out. The last game I was at had so many drunks, puking, falling down the stairs and fighting that I said, “I will never come to one of these games again”.

[email protected] @ 10/9/2013 4:15 AM

Like leading lambs to the slotter, who will protect you when the bad brings a gun to the party and no one is there for 15 minutes as he shoots people. Stupid stupid rule.

Kevin G @ 10/9/2013 4:20 AM

According to Roger Goodell NFL now stands for No Friggin' Leos! Stay home brothers and sisters.

Kevin G @ 10/9/2013 4:20 AM

According to Roger Goodell NFL now stands for No Friggin' Leos! Stay home brothers and sisters.

Andy Gore @ 10/9/2013 4:54 AM

I am so tired of these private companies and governments thinking that its ok to violate peoples constitutional rights. Not to metion the federal laws that have been inacted for police officers right to carry. The police at each NFL stadium should refuse to work any of the games until that ridiculous rule is removed. I refuse to patronize any organization that participates in this kind of behavior.

Tom Verburg @ 10/9/2013 5:20 AM

Are they stupid ? The answer is obvious. How does this work in any juristiction, where off-duty carry is encouraged or mandated by that department? What happens when that stadium in in that juristiction ?

Soccer anyone ?

Trigger @ 10/9/2013 6:28 AM

"The firearm rule was implemented after the league examined its best practices and decided the policy would enhance the gameday experience, an NFL spokesman said " this is a quote from the NFL. I am confused as to how this will enhance the gameday experience????? I guess save your money and stay home. And to think that the NFL is an officially recognized not-for-profit organization.

getum @ 10/9/2013 6:37 AM

This is a private business, they can do what they want! Who cares, don't go to games it is pretty simple. I am sure there are plenty of posters here complaining that don't even go to the games. Just because you are a cop, doensn't mean you get to do things that others can not do. If an LEO can carry into a place, then so should CO's, DO's and security gaurds! HR218, does not trample a private business right to ban firearms.

getum @ 10/9/2013 6:40 AM

This new policy will not effect them in any way. For the 5 or 10 that stay home, you won't even be noticed at all on the bottom line in terms of money lost.

Allen @ 10/9/2013 6:41 AM

They will never see a dime from me or my family. As a 30 yr veteran and current Chief, I always carry, and I don't go places I can't. I even sent a letter to the NFL protesting such action, which I'm sure will go unanswered.

Joe @ 10/9/2013 6:42 AM

You think this is bad? In the jurisdiction I work for, law enforcement has been banned from wearing our guns into our own courthouse where it’s nothing but criminals.

Getum @ 10/9/2013 6:45 AM

Andy Gore, private businesses have rights too, your rights are no better than theirs, as theirs is no better than yours. Police officers are GOING to work the games, money talks; this little policy will not stop that. In AZ, DPS get $60 an hour to do the games.... They are not going to give that up.

getum @ 10/9/2013 6:48 AM

Joe, they have refuse gun on officers in AZ Courts too (it depends on the judge). Nothing has ever happened at all. Plus one reason judges dont like it is because Jueries tend to focus on the firearm too. Not a big deal. Be a fair and not an arrogant police officer and you will be fine!

GetUmSucks @ 10/9/2013 6:52 AM

Dude shut up!!! Obvisouly you don't support LE or gun owner rights so the next time some thug is robbing you or you little business... Please do me a favor and don't call the police!!! Loser!!!

GetUmSucks @ 10/9/2013 6:59 AM

Also it does affect us because guess what the guys that you and your friends are to scared to say something to are the same guys we have to put in jail and occasionally fight. So now we are at the game with our family and guess who we might run into? At this time he is probably gonna be drunk and with a few friends so now this LE officer is going to out numbered and unarmed!!! I guarantee that you won't step in and help me fight either @GETUM!!!!

Johnny Law @ 10/9/2013 7:17 AM

Ignore getum, he will be the first to call 911 and want our help when the bad men show up at his door! LEOs are trained and certified to do their jobs and that is why they are welcomed at most any event, IE- free security if something bad happens. Buying a gun and a box of bullets at the local gun store doesnt make you a professional "getum". All the NFL has done is announce to the world that its games are "gun free zones" so come attack the unarmed and be on the nightly news. You didnt see the carnage at our military bases when the soldiers were armed, only when idiots disarmed them and made them soft targets! Stay safe my brothers and sisters!

Jimbo @ 10/9/2013 7:25 AM

Other posts are correct. Private property owners/lessees etc, can prohibit the carrying of firearms. This is allowed by the federal code known as HR218. I forget the exact wording, but it's something like we can carry unless otherwise prohibited by law. If not, no one could stop us from carrying in a jail for instance.

Our county courthouse prohibits carrying even in uniform unless it's deputy assigned as a baliff. Dumb rule.

Federal courthouses don't let ANY local officers carry firearms unless they're deputized as federal officers. Dumb rule.

This too is a dumb rule, but we're stuck. Doesn't affect me because who can afford to go to an NFL game? I don't like pro sports anyway. I just can't bring myself to cheer for millionaires.

ron @ 10/9/2013 7:36 AM

Why would anyone want to send your hard earned money to watch a bunch of over paid full of themselves so called athletes? Now they telling you they don't want you there. They cant make it any clearer than that.

Ralph Clemings @ 10/9/2013 8:22 AM

Maybe the NFL should rent 2 min. warning, Move from the late 80's about shooter at Football game

John519 @ 10/9/2013 8:25 AM

" How can their policy suercede federal law? HR218 says they can't do this. We need a bunch turned away and then a healthy lawsuit. That will remove this stupid policy. "

A lot of those (multimillion dollar stadiums) are built with TAX Payer $. Will that make any difference....

Tony @ 10/9/2013 8:38 AM

Heads up Internal Affairs. When some idiot secrets a carbon fiber knife past the $10.0. an hour security guard, who is busy looking at the pretty girls; and when the idiot (he/she) stands up and yells "...Jihad..." and begins stabbing folks all around him and her; Label the IAD file against the off-duty officers "NOT SUSTAINED" when they are charged for failing to act in the face of hostile criminal behavior because they were only protecting themselves and their loved ones and NOT "stopping" the threat.

John @ 10/9/2013 8:46 AM

I wonder if that applies to the players and the armed security forces that protects them and/or the owners?

Mark @ 10/9/2013 9:14 AM

Funny, they higher gang members, murderers, drug trafficers, alcohol and drug abusers and it's all ok if the players bring in the money for the league. Now they ban the good guys who have not had any instance where their was an issue with off duty carry. I seriously think the league's moral compass is way off. Like most, I will do what I can to prevent any dollars going to the NFL.

ronnie @ 10/9/2013 9:58 AM

wonder who wife got stop for speeding and DUI.

Ordinary Joe @ 10/9/2013 10:30 AM

Just remember this the next time they come to you and ask you to look the other way or to cut a player a break.

Sally @ 10/9/2013 10:34 AM

I think it’s a good idea. I think guns are really really scary. Sometimes when I see people on TV with guns I get upset. I wish everyone would listen to President Obama and turn in their guns. It would be such a better world if nobody had a gun. Peace not war!

Andreas @ 10/9/2013 10:37 AM

Wow when an active shooter gets in. There are to many ways to get weapons in before the event . NFL owners dumb move, i am in security with concealed permit.

oldcop @ 10/9/2013 11:10 AM

I wonder if they are going to check the million dollar players on steroids and other drugs.

The Man @ 10/9/2013 11:24 AM

These stadiums may be private property, but I can tell you they were all built with public funds--TAX money.

gene mayhue @ 10/9/2013 3:34 PM

THIS IS THE MOST REDICULOUS THING THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD OF, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE NFL WOULD APPRECIATE CURRENT OR RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS COMING TO THEIR GAMES ARMED. DOES THE NFL NOT REALIZE THAT THERE IS A FEDERAL LAW ALLOWING OFFICERS TO CARRY OFF DUTY, AND I THANK GOD THAT THEY CAN. I WILL NOT EVER ATTEND ANOTHER NFL GAME. IF YOU DONTSUPPORT ME I DONT SUPPORT YOU.

Boston @ 10/9/2013 4:05 PM

Sally with all due respect you need to seek professional help and then educational information. Maybe you should sit back and read a few WWII history books. Those guns that scare you are the same guns (weapons) that protect you. If the USG confiscated all the guns and only the bad bad men had the guns then what would you say? Sally its not the weapons, its the people. Cartels and gangs are my major concern thes days along with an additional 11M illegals. They will all have guns Sally. Does Obama think guns are bad when he has a SOCOM soldier kill a terrorist? Look on the internet for all the US terrorists camps their maybe one in your neighborhood.

TERRY F. ZECH (FED VAPD R @ 10/9/2013 5:03 PM

Well I guess we can always throw beer bottles at them even though they might have guns. This is Obama behind the scenes work. There won't be any one going to the stadiums except the bad guys. Don't want my protection then you don't want my ticket money either because you are not going to get it. DETROIT

Chuck @ 10/9/2013 7:30 PM

Is it me or does Sally really really sound like she's about 10 years old?

Troop @ 10/9/2013 8:30 PM

NFL players get busted for carrying guns all the time as well as convicted felons playing in the league. Ban the good guys who can carry in any state according to a federal law. What a pathetic joke.

tommy schoenfeld @ 10/10/2013 12:58 AM

As long as they dont want my 23 years of P D firearms training & basically having free exrtra police at the game, ill be glad to stay home & watch while the bad guys sneak right in with theirs. Ur loss.

dave patterson @ 10/10/2013 4:21 AM

I guess if there is a problam we will need to run to the nearest wide receivers locker and grab a gun. This is wrong in so many ways.

ggc @ 10/10/2013 7:39 AM

Not sure of the laws in Ohio, but numerous states mandate that only the owner of the property can make that decision. I believe the owner of this stadium is the City of Clevland. How does the council feel about that?

bob retired leo @ 10/10/2013 11:48 AM

I don't know how many have been to England. There the Bobbies (POLICE) didn't carry firearms with the exception of Scotland Yard. Well attacks on the bobbies grew, mostly with knife attacks. (England bans guns with some exceptions.) The perps were becoming more violent against Police. With attacks increasing and the threat of terrorism most departments there have armed their Off.'s now for protection. Seems here in the states the NFL and anti-gun people want our guns taken away, from civilians first and then off duty law officers. I'm sure the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they created the 2nd amendment. Now the anti gun freaks want the LAW OF THE LAND annulled because these wimps fear law abiding people owning guns. As its been said, they will get my gun when they pry it from my cold dead body. I served my country in the MILITARY and as an LEO. ViVa the 2nd Amendment, thank you FOUNDING FATHERS.

SgtRonbo @ 10/11/2013 10:24 AM

Although I am in agreement with most of the LEO's here with regard to the overall question of disarming of off-duty officers who choose to attend an NFL game, I must question the reasons that some of you have cited to support your arguments. The biggest one that I hear and the one which sounds just plain dumb is that if something happens, you want to be able to respond or engage the perpertrator, or words to that effect. The biggest problem with that argument, and the easiest for the NFL or others to defend, is that they have paid a large cadre of uniformed police officers and security to handle problems that might arise and they don't need/want to have a whole bunch of potential free-lancers in civilian cloths running around with guns drawn, which could add to the confusion for the uniformed officers. As an on-duty LEO, I would not want to have to sort through that either if an event occurred. How do you tell the difference between a terrorist with a fake badge and an off-duty cop?

REW1 @ 10/11/2013 5:18 PM

Maybe a change is in order?
They don't pay taxes for those who protect their interests.

The National Football League grossed $9.5 billion in 2012, $9.4 billion the year before that. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell (pictured) pulls in a paycheck of about $30 million per year. Of the league’s 31 individual team owners, 17 are billionaires.

But here’s a fun fact. Did you know that the NFL is officially a nonprofit organization?

REW1 @ 10/11/2013 5:19 PM

The National Football League grossed $9.5 billion in 2012, $9.4 billion the year before that. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell (pictured) pulls in a paycheck of about $30 million per year. Of the league’s 31 individual team owners, 17 are billionaires.

But here’s a fun fact. Did you know that the NFL is officially a nonprofit organization?

Justin @ 10/14/2013 6:04 AM

@SgtRanbo... In response to your comment "the NFL has paid a large cadre of uniformed police officers and security to perform". The ratio of game patrons to uniforms at my stadium (FedEx field) is probably about 3000 : 1. I'd prefer my chances of defending myself. I get your point, but if something serious breaks out, we aren't allowed to run and hide with the civilians. At least we swore not to...

Michael @ 11/10/2013 6:47 PM

Tax exempt and using tax-payer built facilities to earn their profits. Many of these "NFL" facilities belong to the public are are simply leased to the teams. Time to get our representatives to start doing their jobs.

GI Goe @ 11/23/2014 8:57 PM

The policies and laws against retired and off duty police officers has been deteriorating for years and continues. At one time we could carry just about anywhere. Now a days even a fast food, night club, dive bar, market, restaurant can put up their anti- gun signs of no open carry, ccw or just no guns whether you are an off duty officer or civilian in a open carry state, etc. It's getting worse and police are loosing police powers year by year. In many states police who are retired can't buy any more gun mags over 10 rounds yet we hace has them, own them and carried 15 round mags on duty through your career but can carry ccw. Ridiculously stupid!!!!

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