FREE e-Newsletter
Important News - Hot Topics
Get them Now!

Top News

Report: L.A. Cops Fired 100+ Rounds at Newspaper Truck

February 22, 2013  | 

Eight LAPD officers who fired dozens of rounds at a newspaper delivery truck during the Chris Dorner manhunt will be kept out of the field until the investigation is complete, according to the agency.

The officers "will remain in non-field assignments until the chief decides otherwise," Lt. Andy Neiman told POLICE.

The officers may have fired more than 100 rounds at a Toyota Tacoma pick-up truck delivering copies of the Los Angeles Times on the morning of Feb. 7, according to NBC News. The department has not released the number of rounds fired, Lt. Neiman said.

The shooting ocurred after officers were notified that the truck matched the description of Dorner's Nissan Titan. Margie Carranza, 47, was struck in the hand and her mother Emma Hernandez, 71, was struck twice in the back.

There have been conflicting reports about the number of rounds fired. The women's attorney told NBC he counted 102 rounds in the Tacoma. The Los Angeles Times reports officers fired "between 20 and 30" rounds.

Other rounds struck a front door, walls, and garages of homes on Redbeam Avenue in Torrance.

Tags: LAPD, Officer Involved Shootings, Reflex Fire, Chris Dorner


Comments (13)

Displaying 1 - 13 of 13

brian @ 2/22/2013 4:47 PM

Fire them and charge them with attempted murder. No excuse for this.

Joe @ 2/25/2013 3:52 PM

I almost always side with other LEO's, but this time I have agree with Brian. This was way out of line and there is no excuse, no matter what anyone says. If these officers did this out of fear, then they don't belong being law enforcement, if they did it for any other reason, then they are no better than the criminals we try to put away and control.

Tschako @ 2/25/2013 10:05 PM

Reports of this incident in SoCal stated that the pickup was driving without lights and refused to stop on command. Consider that when you're ready to flush those guys down the toilet. Assuming these facts are true, what do you think they should have done alternatively?

Doc @ 2/25/2013 10:07 PM

It would seem as if they did it out of fear, so that leads to more questions. Since they knew that dorner was well armed and had already shown that he would kill, did Any of the officers have rifles or even shotguns?
If they felt out gunned due to department policy, then that would be a factor that the administration should answer for, as a part of this problem.
As far as the officers that fired those rounds, you have to wonder Why they didn't even try to identify the target, or as in this case Targets (Wrong Targets)?
That was just a "spray and pray" job, and that's not how I train officers to respond to an unknown. I wonder why they didn't take cover and wait to see who it was first.
Since I don't know all of the factors involved, I can't say for sure, but I KNOW there will be a Huge Civil Case, and termination could be in store for some or all of them, including some command staff.
As far as criminal charges, they would have to prove the case, starting with intent and if it was found that malice was involved, then it could be a case for a Federal Court.
I just have to wonder who instigated such a huge CF, and how could they pour it on someone, without being able to say that the two women looked Anything like the murder suspect?
This is a bad deal for ALL people involved, including the public, I'll be waiting for more info, and to see what the Courts decide.

Bob @ VA @ 2/26/2013 5:31 AM

Firearm safety requires knowing your target and what lies behind it. The officers did not even remotely identify their target. The pickup contained two women, not a single large black man. LE can't just shoot up every vehicle vaguely resembling a vehicle of interest. In this manhunt, another officer also rammed a truck in Torrence driven by a thin white man. All this indicates departments dangerously out of control - a kind of vigilantism under color of law.

Ian @ 2/26/2013 7:49 AM

L.A. just needs to open up their checkbook on this one. WTF

Capt. Crunch @ 2/26/2013 1:53 PM

We had 1,000 idiots demonstrating for Dorner,on his behalf and we have police officers who want to flush their brothers and sisters in blue down the toilet without knowing what the the investigation will reveal. There is somthing definitely wrong with this picture.

John @ 2/27/2013 12:37 AM

A police commission is not a license to kill innocent civilians. I would feel safer around legally armed civilians than L.A.P.D. officers.

Greg @ 3/15/2013 6:49 AM

Fear, cowardice or imcompetence? Fear and cowardice I believe. "We thought it was Dormer's truck" they bleated...Uh, no, wrong color and make of vehicle. One man was driving, stopped and interviewed by officers, they let him go and he was shortly t-boned by an officer and shots fired at his car. "I couldn't see him" the idiot said...well, duh, his airbag depoloyed, you couldn't see anything..so of course, he had to shoot.

Not LAPDs best moments. They're lucky no other people were shot or killed with 100 rounds going downrange in a neighborhood. Pathetic group who should be fired and face charges.

Yep, get out the checkbook...I sure hope the city really eats this cost and they pass it on to the LAPD.

brandon davis @ 4/2/2013 11:34 PM

Are you kidding me? Administrative duty? How about attempted murder and reckless endagerment?

jose velez @ 4/23/2013 7:49 PM

as a x leo this real bad for lapd that is the way thay do thinks in cal it insane we dont need cops doing this is out of line big time . the cops in cal are in need of big help. it time to do something.

Payasa @ 4/23/2013 9:02 PM

I can't get past the $4.2M. Sorry. I don't care who is right or wrong. This society is just far too litigious. A new truck, medical bills, etc. But $4.2M? The attorneys are just insane. No wonder the cost of everything keeps going up and up.

Louis @ 4/27/2013 3:28 AM

If you guys only knew the rest of what goes on in the LA area when it comes to LE. My wife and I called in to LASO one night because we came out of a Staples and found a phone, money, and blood all over the ground and car. We had not been in the store 15 minutes. The two deputies that came out dismissed the issue because there was no body and no one had called in an assault. A half hour later we were at home and their Sargent was knocking on our door. Turns out there was a stabbing after all. In the mean time, I had followed the advice of the 2 initial officers and washed the blood evidence from our car. There's more to the Dorner story reported here, as well. And you can't trust the LA Times. All LA media cover for the police big time out here.

Join the Discussion





POLICE Magazine does not tolerate comments that include profanity, personal attacks or antisocial behavior (such as "spamming" or "trolling"). This and other inappropriate content or material will be removed. We reserve the right to block any user who violates this, including removing all content posted by that user.
Get Your FREE Trial Issue and Win a Gift! Subscribe Today!
Yes! Please rush me my FREE TRIAL ISSUE of POLICE magazine and FREE Officer Survival Guide with tips and tactics to help me safely get out of 10 different situations.

Just fill in the form to the right and click the button to receive your FREE Trial Issue.

If POLICE does not satisfy you, just write "cancel" on the invoice and send it back. You'll pay nothing, and the FREE issue is yours to keep. If you enjoy POLICE, pay only $25 for a full one-year subscription (12 issues in all). Enjoy a savings of nearly 60% off the cover price!

Offer valid in US only. Outside U.S., click here.
It's easy! Just fill in the form below and click the red button to receive your FREE Trial Issue.
First Name:
Last Name:
Rank:
Agency:
Address:
City:
State:
  
Zip Code:
 
Country:
We respect your privacy. Please let us know if the address provided is your home, as your RANK / AGENCY will not be included on the mailing label.
E-mail Address:

Police Magazine