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7/26/2007 8:49 PM #11
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2

RE: Glock

As with any Handgun use for patrol or police work the most important concideration is that for one it is simple to use under extreame stress conditions and it is easily shot by everyone in the agency. The best feature about Glock firearms is that the magizines interchange. If you carry a full size Glock 22 .40 cal as a primary firearm and a sub-compact Glock 27 .40 cal as a secondary firearm, and your primary gun for what ever the reason malfunctions. You can deploy your backup firearm and not be limited to it's amunition capacity. As with everyone else the Glocks are very durable and the cost of replaceing worn or broken parts is reasonable.

8/29/2007 9:14 PM #12
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22

RE: Glock

My agency issues the Glock 23, but will authorize officers to carry their personally owned pistols of choice on duty, as long as it's a Glock .40. The "logic" used to justify this is the notion that IF an officer was engaged in a long and drawn out gunfight and ran out of ammo, their back-up would be able to give them another magazine. This "logic" is, of course, bravo sierra, and totally unrealistic. In the first place, we have DPMS 5.56mm patrol carbines in our trunks. If I know I'm going into a potential gunfight I'm grabbing my carbine and putting it up front with me along with my tac vest containing 6 extra magazines. Only a fool knowingly goes to a gunfight armed with a pistol unless that's the only weapon available. Second, if the other officer ran out of ammo, I'm not giving them mine to let them waste it too. My assigned patrol car has keyless entry and I keep a jump out bag in the passenger floorboard containing 6 loaded Glock 22 magazines. I'll cover the other officer while they grab the bag.

Having said that, the Glock, as others have said is reliable and durable and more than accurate enough for a combat pistol. They aren't for everyone, especially in the model 23 configuration for officers with larger hands. I am of the firm belief that officers should be authorized to carry what they're comfortable with and can shoot well with, because they'll be confidant with it.

I personally have no use for the 9mm cartridge for a defensive pistol, but I know several experienced officers who swear by them. I don't want one forced on me, nor would I want to force a .40 or .45 on them. I also wouldn't want to force a Glock, Sig, H&K, 1911 or anything else on all officers. We're all created equal but different, some have smaller hands and some have larger hands and many have medium size hands. We're individuals and have individual preferences. I'd say as long as an officer doesn't want to go with less than a 9mm nor larger than a .45 LC then let the officers choose for themselves. If the agency wants to issue a pistol, fine, but don't shove them down everyones' throats (or in their holsters).
11/24/2007 10:44 PM #13
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2

Yep

Quote:
Original post by CPD169

My agency issues the Glock 23, but will authorize officers to carry their personally owned pistols of choice on duty, as long as it's a Glock .40. The "logic" used to justify this is the notion that IF an officer was engaged in a long and drawn out gunfight and ran out of ammo, their back-up would be able to give them another magazine. This "logic" is, of course, bravo sierra, and totally unrealistic. In the first place, we have DPMS 5.56mm patrol carbines in our trunks. If I know I'm going into a potential gunfight I'm grabbing my carbine and putting it up front with me along with my tac vest containing 6 extra magazines. Only a fool knowingly goes to a gunfight armed with a pistol unless that's the only weapon available. Second, if the other officer ran out of ammo, I'm not giving them mine to let them waste it too. My assigned patrol car has keyless entry and I keep a jump out bag in the passenger floorboard containing 6 loaded Glock 22 magazines. I'll cover the other officer while they grab the bag.

Having said that, the Glock, as others have said is reliable and durable and more than accurate enough for a combat pistol. They aren't for everyone, especially in the model 23 configuration for officers with larger hands. I am of the firm belief that officers should be authorized to carry what they're comfortable with and can shoot well with, because they'll be confidant with it.

I personally have no use for the 9mm cartridge for a defensive pistol, but I know several experienced officers who swear by them. I don't want one forced on me, nor would I want to force a .40 or .45 on them. I also wouldn't want to force a Glock, Sig, H&K, 1911 or anything else on all officers. We're all created equal but different, some have smaller hands and some have larger hands and many have medium size hands. We're individuals and have individual preferences. I'd say as long as an officer doesn't want to go with less than a 9mm nor larger than a .45 LC then let the officers choose for themselves. If the agency wants to issue a pistol, fine, but don't shove them down everyones' throats (or in their holsters).

Very Good Logic, you and I think alike. IMO too many officers out way to much faith in a handgun.

2/22/2008 4:14 PM #14
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1

Glocks for for all... who want them

My dept issues the Glock 35 - "The Cannon." We can carry whatever we want based on an extensive "approved firearms" list. A lot of this is based on personal prefrence but allows many different makes and models. There was also a lot of research put into this mostly on reliability. I stuck with the 35 for duty use. Yes it is basically a long gun on a pistol frame but it's also a little bit more accurate under high-stress situations. I carry the 23 off-duty. I don't recommend the 35 for off-duty carry at all. Not only is it too big to conceal without having a long/bulky coat, it is also pretty heavy for a standard belt. I swear it gave me hip problems. But as with anything in life - find something that suits YOU, not just the people in charge!
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