RE: How Do I Advance My Career?

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RE: How Do I Advance My Career?

Get in good with the "Good Ol Boys"............ Of course I found that out too late. Maybe with the next PD though......??

RE: How Do I Advance My Career?

Just remember good ol boys are nothing but a bunch of politicians. As I have observed, some, but not all of the people who have been promoted into leadership positions have no skills to be put in that position. They brown nose their way to the top. I have two great books for you to read. I had readthem in grad school. "Who moved my cheese" and the "Peter Principle". They are management books, but more than anything they help you to see why change management in organzations goes wrong. One of those fears is of change, the fear of thinking outside of the box. The Principle book has one important part in it, I will paste it verbatim so as not to lose anything in the transition-

" The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent." Soon the organization is full of incompetent people. Think of this when you ponder whether or not to join the boys club. Education is your best tool.

[After Laurence Johnston Peter (1919–1990).]

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RE: How Do I Advance My Career?

While the people who get in good with the good ol boys in charge will sometimes get ahead, they also lose quickly when there is a change of administration and a new set of good ol boys gets in.

It is not nearly as fast, but education and competence will get you ahead further, in my experience. I will admit that you have to be able and willing to change departments sometimes to get ahead, just don't do it too often. Look at most chief's careers and you will find that once they made chief, they generally moved to another department to get further ahead and worked up the chain of departments by size.

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STEVE....I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE LIKE THE MAJOR ONES OUT HERE, BUT IF ADMINISTRATION, MEANING CHIEF OR SHERIFF, MOST PEOPLE THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY UNDER HIM/HER GET KICKED TO THE CURB WHEN NEW ADMIN TAKES OVER. I HAVE SEEN IT IN THE MAJOR DEPARTMENTS OUT HERE, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK WHERE YOUR LOYALTY TO THE CHIEF IS, OR SHOULD YOUR LOYALTY BE TO YOUR FAMILY? BROWN NOSING IS NOT WORTH IT, MAINTAIN YOUR PERSONAL INTEGRITY.

BTW DON'T JUMP AROUND DEPARTMENT SHOPPING. OUT HERE IN CALIF., THEY SEEM TO BE A WEEBIT PARANOID ABOUT OFFICERS/DEPUTIES WHO JUMP SHIP FOR ANOTHER ONE. TOO MANY TIMES MAKES YOU LOOK UNSTABLE.

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I think you might have misunderstood. We too are vry cautious about people jumping ship to get ahead, especially at the patrolman rank. Too many times or too short a time with any department marks you. But we also recognize, especially in smaller departments, that it is the only way to get ahead. For example, I was a sgt (3rd in command) of a 15 man department. The only way I could get promoted at that department was for either the Chief or Assistant Chief to leave. Given their ages, that was unlikely, so after putting in 5 years there (3 as sergeant), moving to a different department to get a promotion is not unreasonable.

I was especially referring to the Chiefs though. You have to brea into the command ranks in a fairly small department, then after you prove yourself there, you can move to a bigger department for a few years. You can progress through the chiefs ranks this way, going from a five or ten man department up to a small city with a 100 to 300 man department.

Even the big cities work this way to some extent. You work up the ranks to chief or assistant chief in one city, then you can move to another larger city for the pay raise. Consider William McManus, who made assistant chief in DC, then chief in Dayton Ohio, then Minneapolis, and now in San Antonio. I can see him moving in a year or two to another still larger department. Didn't LAPD get their current chief from Philadelphia?

As for the brown-nosing, note I said competence and education will get you ahead further. It is not a fast as brown-nosing, but you don't lose you job when the chief changes. Eventually I think you get further on competence and skill than on politics and brown-nosing.

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THIS IS THE SKINNY ON BRATTON- HIS ASSISTANT CHIEF, JIM MCDONNELL HAS A BAH-STUN ACCENT AS WELL....LOL
THEY GOT OL BOY WILLIE WILLIAMS FROM PHILLIE...WHAT A WASTE OF TAXPAYERS DOUGH HE WAS.

William J. Bratton

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William J. Bratton

Chief Bratton's Official LAPD Photo
Born William Joseph Bratton
October 6, 1947 (1947-10-06) (age 60)
Boston, Massachusetts
Residence Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California
Employer City of Los Angeles
Occupation Police Chief
Title Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department
Salary $300,442 per year
Term 2002-present
Predecessor Martin H. Pomeroy
Religious beliefs Roman Catholic
Spouse Rikki Klieman his fourth wife
Children David Bratton

William Joseph 'Bill' Bratton is currently the 54th Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), and was formerly the Police Commissioner of New York City and Boston.

Contents [hide]
1 Boston
2 New York City
3 Los Angeles
4 Personal life
5 References
6 External links

[edit] Boston
Born on October 6, 1947, Bratton is a native of Boston, Massachusetts. He attended Boston Technical High School, graduating in 1965. From there, he served in the Military Police Corps of the United States Army during the Vietnam War, returning to Boston in 1970 to start a police career in the Boston Police Department. He quickly rose to the rank of lieutenant, and in 1980, at the age of 32 and ten years after his appointment to the BPD, Bratton was named as the youngest ever Executive Superintendent of the Boston Police, the department's second highest post. He was dismissed as executive superintendent after he told a journalist that his goal was to be the Police Commissioner. He was reassigned to the position of Inspector of Bureaus, a sinecure which was responsible for liaison with minority and LGBTQ communities. He was later brought back into police headquarters to handle labor relations and 911 related issues.

Between 1983 and 1986 Bratton was Chief of Police for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, following which he became Superintendent of Boston's Metropolitan District Commission Police. In 1990, he was appointed Chief of Police of the New York City Transit Police. Bratton was Superintendent in Chief of the Boston Police Department from 1991 until 1993, when he became that city's 34th Police Commissioner. He holds the Department's highest award for valor.

[edit] New York City
In 1994, William Bratton was appointed the 38th Commissioner of the New York City Police Department by Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. He had success in this position, and introduced the CompStat system of tracking crimes, which proved successful in reducing crime in New York City and is still used to this day. A new tax surcharge enabled the training and deployment of around 5,000 new better-educated police officers, police decision-making was devolved to precinct level, and a backlog of 50,000 unserved warrants was cleared. The CompStat real-time police intelligence computer system was effectively introduced and integrated. Police numbers were further boosted in 1995 when New York's housing and transit police were merged into the New York Police Department. Bratton left the job in 1996 after alleged personal conflicts with Giuliani.

In 1996, Bratton was featured in a business case prepared by James L. Heskett and published by Harvard Business School (Ref 9-396-293). Bratton's efforts to effectively turn around the New York City Police Department is used by many business schools as a tool for teaching organizational design and change.[citation needed]

[edit] Los Angeles
Bratton worked as a private consultant with Kroll Associates, also known as LAPD's Independent Monitor, until his appointment by Mayor of Los Angeles James Hahn as the LAPD's 54th Chief of Police in October 2002. On June 19, 2007, the LA Police Commission reappointed William Bratton to a second five-year term, the first reappointment of an LAPD chief in almost twenty years. HMMMM WOULD THIS MAKE A REASONABLE PERSON SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THE CONSENT DECREE LAPD OPERATES UNDER?

[edit] Personal life
He holds a Bachelor of Science in Law Enforcement from the University of Massachusetts and was a research fellow at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University.

Bratton is married to attorney and Court TV analyst Rikki Klieman, and has one son, David, from a prior marriage. Bratton was also formerly married to attorney and newscaster Cheryl Fiandaca. Bratton is Roman Catholic.

In 1998, Random House published his memoir TURNAROUND: How America's Top Cop Reversed the Crime Epidemic, written with co-author Peter Knobler. It was named a New York Times Notable Book of the Year.

[edit] References
William Bratton & Peter Knobler. Turnaround: How America's Top Cop Reversed the Crime Epidemic. Random House, 1998.

[edit] External links
On the Front Line in the War on Terrorism, City Journal, Summer 2007
LAPD: William J. Bratton Biography
William Bratton speaks out against concealed carry
"Ask the Chief" - Southern California NPR (KPCC) Interview May 16, 2007 focusing on the MacArthur Park Demonstrations and Bratton's reappointment as LAPD's Chief (Real Audio)
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Francis M. "Mickey" Roach Commissioner of the Boston Police Department
1993-1994 Succeeded by
Paul F. Evans
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Raymond W. Kelly NYPD Commissioner
1994-1996 Succeeded by
Howard Safir
Preceded by
Martin H. Pomeroy Chief of Los Angeles Police Department
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1950 - 2002 Parker · Brown · Reddin · Murdock · E.M. Davis · Rock · Gates · Williams · Lewis · Parks

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