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6/16/2008 1:04 PM
Editor View Editor's profile Find recent posts by Editor Find recent threads started by Editor Send private message to Editor Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 102	May 2008 Put yourself in the shoes of Officer Sean Kilbreth, having stopped a suspicious vehicle with a bullet hole in the windshield and a driver and passenger with holes in their story. • Officer Kilbreth went to work, despite having sustained a back injury earlier in the day. Do you report to work when injured? If so, why? • Have you considered what you would do if you found yourself held at gunpoint? What would you do? What do you think of Officer Kilbreth's response? • What do you do to prepare for the possibility of being shot and having to continue to engage a suspect? Have you incorporated such considerations into your tactical training?

6/16/2008 1:04 PM

May 2008

Put yourself in the shoes of Officer Sean Kilbreth, having stopped a suspicious vehicle with a bullet hole in the windshield and a driver and passenger with holes in their story.

• Officer Kilbreth went to work, despite having sustained a back injury earlier in the day. Do you report to work when injured? If so, why?

• Have you considered what you would do if you found yourself held at gunpoint? What would you do? What do you think of Officer Kilbreth's response?

• What do you do to prepare for the possibility of being shot and having to continue to engage a suspect? Have you incorporated such considerations into your tactical training?

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6/17/2008 12:35 AM	#1
wolfva View wolfva's profile Find recent posts by wolfva Find recent threads started by wolfva Send private message to wolfva Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 215	RE: May 2008 -Yes, I've gone to work numerous times injured or sick. Bills need to be paid, ya know? But if I'm injured to the point of being inable to do my job...I'll call in sick. -Been there, done that. When it happened I chased the guy down and arrested him. I got VERY lucky (as only the truly stupid do). -I train for such situations, and practice various drills. Also, I nightly go through a variety of possible scenarios in my head to mentally pepare for the worst case scenarios.

6/17/2008 12:35 AM

RE: May 2008

-Yes, I've gone to work numerous times injured or sick. Bills need to be paid, ya know? But if I'm injured to the point of being inable to do my job...I'll call in sick.

-Been there, done that. When it happened I chased the guy down and arrested him. I got VERY lucky (as only the truly stupid do).

-I train for such situations, and practice various drills. Also, I nightly go through a variety of possible scenarios in my head to mentally pepare for the worst case scenarios.

6/17/2008 7:50 PM	#2
Steve Rothstein View Steve Rothstein's profile Find recent posts by Steve Rothstein Find recent threads started by Steve Rothstein Send private message to Steve Rothstein Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 380	RE: May 2008 I have gone to work when I was injured, including such things as having broken my trigger finger and wearing a cast on it. As mentioned, I need to pay the bills and most departments (including mine) make it hard to call in for more than one or two days at a time. If you are injured where you need more time they make it hard to come back when you are feeling better, requiring doctor's notes and possibly extra exams by their doctor. I have had pistols pointed at me. Most of the time, I got lucky and talked my way out of trouble and arrested the person. Sometimes, I was able to get away and call for lots of backup. Sometimes, the bad guy got away. One time, it led to a shooting. I train and include in my mindset the possibility that I will be shot. I practice reacting as if I had been shot and keep fighting. I know I will be shot one day and I will survive and keep fighting until I win. I am a firm believer that this mindset will help me survive and win, especially as opposed to the lack of thinking it could happen to me. One of the hardest things I see in training new officers is getting them out of the "Bang Bang you are dead" mindset we learn as kids and ingrain in ourselves.

6/17/2008 7:50 PM

Steve Rothstein

Join Date: May 2007
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RE: May 2008

I have gone to work when I was injured, including such things as having broken my trigger finger and wearing a cast on it. As mentioned, I need to pay the bills and most departments (including mine) make it hard to call in for more than one or two days at a time. If you are injured where you need more time they make it hard to come back when you are feeling better, requiring doctor's notes and possibly extra exams by their doctor.

I have had pistols pointed at me. Most of the time, I got lucky and talked my way out of trouble and arrested the person. Sometimes, I was able to get away and call for lots of backup. Sometimes, the bad guy got away. One time, it led to a shooting.

I train and include in my mindset the possibility that I will be shot. I practice reacting as if I had been shot and keep fighting. I know I will be shot one day and I will survive and keep fighting until I win. I am a firm believer that this mindset will help me survive and win, especially as opposed to the lack of thinking it could happen to me.

One of the hardest things I see in training new officers is getting them out of the "Bang Bang you are dead" mindset we learn as kids and ingrain in ourselves.