Heroin

Hallo Peter ~

In my opinion Sir, is this: The United States should not be the only country to formulate tougher heroine penalties into law. All countries belonging to the United Nations should be involved in the resolution of the problem you have presented because the problem is a transnational crime.

Along with this, I do believe that the schedule I narcotic drug is a major financer of terrorism and of course, illegal drug lords, as you have also stated. We all know that these narcotics bring in so much money that it even makes Madoff look poor. It makes no sense to continue to allow folks who deal with heroin to get off with two years of time when this illegal product is financing the demise of many nations. Not to mention, this money also finances the terrorist’s ability to research, develop, and obtain advance education in new products, strategies, techniques, and methods to destroy all things Westernism. Furthermore, it advances their ability to improve their intelligence networks into that of like the CIA, MI5 or SVR, if they haven’t already. But that is an entirely different and covert discussion. But we must understand the type of damage it would do to us if we allowed them to develop into that caliber of a network because of their ability financially.

I do not know where the chap in the Army feels that if one does not have skills, then the only thing left is selling drugs. In the United States, it is drilled in to young minds how damaging drugs are from a young age. Adults are fully aware of the consequences, but some will take the risk because of the money involved or because doing drugs is “the cool thang…”. I assume that he means that those who do not have skills are inclined to get into gangs and into the drug selling mess that comes with it because it is easy money. Many public programs are offered, and it is up to the States to implement programs to help their kind. Some federal programs

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But ~ that is the problem. Going the legitimate route takes time, some money, and a lot of headache for some. The poor are known to be mistreated and taken advantage of because some see them as weak or too dumb to realize they are being taken advantage of. So… that leads to them taking up illegitimate ways to be able to afford their most basic needs. When there is nothing left, and hope is lost, people will find a way to survive. We can offer programs to help, but most people need the encouragement, the support, and the will to go get the help they need. That is not something governments can provide in abundance for its citizens.

Heroin is a problem everywhere. It has infiltrated the countryside and is continuing to spread as gangs do. Both are dependent on each other (gangs and terrorist) to make a profit. Organized crime has the ability to pull their contacts for protection and cover from police or government detection. These three are the major contributors why the

United States, and other nations, suffers from the ills of illegal narcotic sales and the byproducts of extreme theology combined. On the street level or in prisons/jails, the police can help combat this situation. The only problem is ~ greed. If a police officer allows the sales and distribution of narcotics for a sum of money, then we cannot properly fight the battle. Organized crime has bought out many souls, which helps support heroin sales, which funnels the money back into those who produce it ~ terrorists.

It is most definitely a messy situation. If we start educating from the top down what exactly being “bough out” {misconduct} does to not only the country, but to themselves ~ maybe some of the corruption can stop so that heroin sales can also stop.

The biggest issue is getting people to actually give a damn these days to do the right thing. And, money for these welfare programs is drying up. This economy is taking the wind out of everybody’s budgets and their self-esteem to carry on.

Terroism, drugs, and unemployment

Hi Peter,

Here is what I see with this situation; heroin supplies a way for people to make CASH and lots of it. I don't care what the penalties are, you will always have a wolf that wants money enough to sell or distribute it. I think Quassia13 is on the right track to say that nobody gives a darn any more. I see a lot of people (and it is reinforced through the media outlets) that are all about themselves and what makes them feel good. The United States has an addiction to status and wealth. The terrorists know this and use our vices against us. Most of the sheep are not aware that they are being manipulated per se, so for an easier conversation, let's put things this way...if some one becomes unemployed, they will most likely turn to some sort of program (and each state has something to help its people) to get help before getting into the world of drugs because they want to maintain a reputable status while trying to regain wealth.

If the United States Government educated its citizens on where drugs come from and who it supports (in the case of heroin it would be terrorists), the chances of people getting into the business of selling or distributing heroin will be slim. As with being a law enforcement officer, it takes the right type of person to be a hard core drug criminal killing if necessary to defend the business. There are going to be more vulnerable people as the U.S. economy (and world economy) sinks and people are faced with the unknown. But with a bad economy comes different miracles and graces that will pull people out of their despair. It might be heroin for some, but the majority will face anger management issues at their worst. There will be something that keeps them from going over the edge...for most of them anyway.

As far as people without any skills, America is very diverse. There will always be some where that someone can make legitimate money. Whether it is enough money is another story, but there are other avenues to achieve making enough legitimate money.

Concerning the penalties on those who knowingly harbor live/dead drops, bank accounts, fake ID's, sell/distribute/transport heroin or otherwise participate in illegal activities known to support terrorist activity through heroin or any other type of drug, yes they should be held more accountable for the destruction of our nation. When people participate in activities that support a terrorist network, they are traitors to the United States or whatever country they belong to. However, I also agree with Quassia13...heroin trafficking is a transnational crime. It will take a partnership of law enforcement agencies from around the world to prosecute heroin traffickers to the same degree (uniform across the board). And it takes a while to sort out the latest tactics of using stolen bank account information to lobby money into (without the bank or the user knowing) for a short time and then having the corrupt bank employee transfer the money to another account (money laundering) and erasing the tracks accept for the account that it "tagged" or for ease, use the stolen bank account info as a "tracer" account. This is the bad part about electronic banking systems...as the United States is finding out with Wall Street. These systems can be manipulated in hurting innocent people who have no clue, until a federal agent shows up at their door, what the hell is going on. The runts that sell or distribute this stuff are constantly being replaced...it's the brains of the network we need to find all the while manipulating their runts.

But as with anything else...our agents are good sorting out accounts, so are other agents from other countries. So I say that we impose stiffer penalties like death for those who commit treason to the highest level. Sorry...I am not much for keeping a terrorist alive. There are better ways to sort out political or religious differences than to get bomb happy and get half the world strung out on drugs. Since we can't reason with them, then I guess all we got left is to wipe them out. If they ever screw their heads on straight and want to reason, I guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it. But also understand...some people sell and distribute drugs because they just need or want the cash. They are not intentionally after destroying their nation. Terrorists know this.

For now...terrorists are using our vices to kill us (the love of money). I say we kill them back...eye for an eye. This is not a war like we have traditional been used to. The U.S. military and its coalition forces are taking on something entirely different. But that is not a discussion for the board.

Take care Peter

Last edited @ 3/2/2009 3:18 PM

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heroin and the law

If a person knowingly and willingly allows money from heroin sales to bedeposited or harbored into there bank account then the next thing the prosecutor needs to establish is if the intent to harbor the money (or allow it into the account) is for the purpose to support terrorist activities. If not, then still a harsher punishment needs to be served, but at a lesser amount and the person is not labeled a enemy combatant.

there's a big difference between treason and just being plain greedy.

Heroin and Laws

It is good that stricter laws are being enforced to handle the drug peddling rackets...hope the youth of tyhe country is saved somehow.

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