RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

wolfva, I am so sorry to see that you are so ignorant. Every single one of the so called negative articles has appeared SOME WHERE IN THE MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY! You obviously are such a wanna be cop, because you can't get past your security guard mentality. People are looking at these posts, hopefully learning things NOT TO DO.

These NOT TO DO things will provide IN SERVICE TRAINING FOR THEM? Get it? Get over your silly self and get a grip on reality! No one has asked you to read ANY of my posts. They are NOT INTENDED for little security guard wanna be's. They are for those in REAL LAW ENFORCEMENT! So, go bury you small minded head in the sand will ya?

FYI there have been more people posting on these boards since I came in here, no thanks to your silly posts about what ankle holsters little security guards have to wear...lol!

Last edited @ 6/29/2008 9:14 AM

RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

How very mature of you, I write a fact based question to the editor, you respond with nothing but personal attacks. You are NOT the Editor of Police magazine. The articles that you cut and paste are NOT new features to the forum. However, you seem to believe that you ARE the editor, since you keep making new posts in the Editor's forum.

Your assertion that you are bringing in readers is inaccurate. The largest reading count on the front page of the New Features Forum (as of this posting) is 67. The largest responce count is 0. ZERO. You seem to have a very low opinion of Police, thinking that they MUST be trained by you. You, however, are not a police officer. If I'm remembering correctly, you are not even a 'little security guard wanna be', you just took some courses in college. Further, posting articles that we all have seen because, funnily enough, even LEOs and us 'wanna bes' read the newspaper, does nothing to 'train' anyone. Especially as those articles tend to be heavily biased against the officers and have, at best, only half the story.

I have been on this board since it's inception, and on the previous board for years. I have not seen any increase in the numbers of posters in the general access areas. As you are not a Police Officer, you have the same access as I do, so neither of us would know how many people post in the restricted areas.

I wasn't aware there were special ankle holsters for those of us in Security; as I recall a Police Officer asked a question several months back about ankle holsters and I was one of several who gave input based on actuall experience, not based on an article which someone else wrote. If you actually read the forum you would note that I've written a number of responces to a number of other posts, and even started a few threads of my own since that particular response. You could have slammed me for something more recent, like the two posts I made in the joke section, but instead, you decided to attack me for being a Security Officer with knowledge of ankle holsters. Interesting.

Real training comes from reading official reports on incidents, not biased news articles, or reports written by anti-Police organisations. It comes from further discussion of those incidents. It comes from listening to people who have been there, done that, and learned from experience. I highly doubt there is even one agency in this country, including Security companies, which would accept your 'cut and paste' jobs as actual inservice training. Further, I also highly doubt that you would ever be hired to actually conduct an inservice training course. Please get off your high horse. You haven't 'trained' anyone here. And you are not qualified to do so.

RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

Back again Wolfva....your idiotic post belongs in the dumpster, but I decided it warrants another comeback. You in your small, narrow mind, think the posts are anti-police. These articles are what the, are, what they are, and any self respecting, ethical cop would think these boneheads deserve what they get.

This is a direct quote from the LA County District Attorney, Steve Cooley, after his office prosecuted a cop for beating on someone. Cooley said, "This conduct is the kind that people in law enforcement despise and resent because it hurts the overall integrity of the profession and denigrates the heroic work that goes on every day". Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

One more thing wolfva, most of these articles get posted on the front pages of this web site...so go and complain to your mommy.

RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

Once again you respond with nothing but childish insults. I suppose that explains why you cut and paste as opposed to actually debating issues. However, at no point did I state you should not post them, I asked why they were on the New Forum Features section, which is a part of the forum the EDITOR uses to inform us of...new forum features. They are not features atall. They would be best placed in the General Issues section.

If most of those articles are being posted on the front page, then why would you re-post them? The fact of the matter is those articles are NOT posted on the front page. The editors DO post news articles on the front page, and they tend to be good articles. However, and I find it strange I have to reiturate this point, YOU are not the Editor. And yet, you appear to believe you are. You post in the Editor's forum, and you even answer questions posed to the Editor. Again, interesting.

As far as your quote goes...that says far more about YOU then anything else. You honestly believe that Police Officers are so stupid they won't know that such abusive conduct is unethical unless you, like the championing angel that you are, swoop down and inform them? I take the opposing view. I've found, from years of working with Police Officers, that the vast majority not only are decent people, but know that it is not ok to beat the tar out of a compliant suspect, do drugs, embezzle from their departments, etc.

And that is the crux of the matter, is it not? You feel that you are superior to Police. You definately feel superior to Security Officers! So, you come here and post reams upon reams of OTHER PEOPLE'S work without ever actually using your OWN work. This makes you feel smarter then those poor badges out there, doesn't it? Yet what happens when someone questions your cut/paste jobs? Bearing in mind that this is the second time now that has happened...what has been your response? To completely and childishly attack the people who question your 'vast knowledge and experience'. Which is pathetic considering just about NOTHING you have posted comes from your personal knowledge or experience. It is all cut and paste jobs. And when you DO post using your own words, we get the above. "...little security guard wanna be's". "...so go and complain to your mommy." "....your idiotic post belongs in the dumpster." Or it's completely farcical comments claiming that you're just posting the same articles the Editor already posted, or that you're providing actual inservice training.

I may just be a lowly rent-a-cop, and I've never made a secret of that. But at least my posts are based upon my knowledge and experience on the job. Which is the biggest difference between us; YOUR posts have nothing to do with your experiences, your training, your knowledge. It's all someone elses work. All you seem to be able to do on your own is throw pathetic, childish temper tantrums. Do you even HAVE any LEO training? Ever made an arrest? Ever disarmed a weapon wielding opponent? Ever had false charges filed against you by a suspect intent on revenge? Have you saved a life? Taken a life? What are YOUR experiences? Do you have any? Or are you nothing but a cut and paste job?

RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

OK, Guys. I am stepping in.

There will be no more posts in New Forum Features, except by me, PERIOD.

Anyone who posts there from now on, will be banned.

Irishone, I have asked you not to post material from other copyrighted sources in our forums. This violates copyright law. Yes, there is such a thing as "fair use," but you are pushing the envelope. If you want to call someone's attention to an article, copy two paragraphs and insert a link. That's fair use.

As for this flurry of flames from you two. I'm not going to referee. But I do expect our forum participants to act like adults.

Finally, I am the editor of this magazine and this Website. I have not abdicated that title nor its responsibilities. If problems persist, I will take action.

Thank you for your cooperation.

David

RE: Anti-Cop articles in "New Features"

Thank you for the responce David; I appologise if I opened a can of worms or caused headaches to the forum, but it was an issue I felt I had to ask about.