Who you want to be President?
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9/11/2008 8:57 AM
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oldhag
Join Date: October 2007
Posts: 64
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Who you want to be President?
If you had to pick...
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9/11/2008 1:53 PM
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#1
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Steve Rothstein
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 275
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RE: Who you want to be President?
Of the previously named candidates, Ron Paul was my first choice. Of those plus the names floated that did not run at all, Condaleeza Rice.
Of the two main party choices, I don't like either one. I might vote for McCain because I do support Palin, but I might also vote for Bob Barr or abstain from that race. I have not yet made up my mind.
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9/11/2008 9:15 PM
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wolfva
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 114
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RE: Who you want to be President?
Well, since Fred Thompson dropped out of the race I'm voting McCain/Palin. There's several issues I definately don't agree with McCain on, but I can't think of any thing Obama has said that I agree with.
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9/12/2008 8:22 AM
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garfield3
Join Date: October 2007
Posts: 1
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Democrat Stumble
My choices have all dropped out (Guliani, Thompson, Romney). I am not a great fan of McCain but he has my vote over Obama. If Obama had better management skills and learned to pick people to surround him that knew how to keep their mouths shut instead of hurting their boss' chances, who knows. Obama has a long way to go in learning government enough for me to pick him to lead the country but he definately has potential. Biggest thing he needs to do is screen his employees much better and lie less about knowing of their earlier controvertial deeds. Besides, we cannot just go pulling out of Iraq and Obama knows that but politically promises it all the time. If we pulled out of a country that we demolished their military defense structure with a sworn ememy right next store to them, would the world be happy with us or even madder? Guess we'll find out soon depending on how bad the country is mad at the republicans.
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9/12/2008 2:51 PM
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peru4309
Join Date: October 2007
Posts: 1
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8 years is enough
Ask the question are we better off now than we were 8 years ago?
Economy? no
Employment? no
Foreign Affairs? no
And the list go on and on.
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9/12/2008 8:16 PM
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ROB ROY
Join Date: January 2008
Posts: 2
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ROB ROY
I wouldnt vote for b. hussien obama if they put a gun to my head. I'am voting for McCain/Palin. I live in AZ. and J.M. may have not have voted like i wanted him to all the time, but at least he stick's to his belief's and tell's it like it is. Also I want to keep my gun's, I don't want my taxe's to go up, and they can drill in my backyard if they want to.
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9/12/2008 8:28 PM
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Steve Rothstein
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 275
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RE: Who you want to be President?
Peru4309, you have convinced me. We are worse off in some areas and better off in some. But, since we are worse off in some, I agree with you that eight years is enough. I will not vote for George Bush again.
Oh yeah, he is not running. Which of the candidates is going to something better and what are they going to do? Tell me what the candidate's position is that you want me to vote for and I will consider it. You cannot get me to vote for anyone by telling me not vote for Bush.
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9/13/2008 7:09 PM
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oldhag
Join Date: October 2007
Posts: 64
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RE: Who you want to be President?
I think Palin just does a lot of grandstanding, she talks about "Standing up to the old boys network" and "The difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is: lipstick." She talks about how she's shattering the glass ceiling. But then all her opinions just line up with the stale old republican party ways: religion, narrow-mindedness, patriotism. Supposedly, she has this ideal conservative happy family life. I wonder how it'll go down when the 15 year old gets knocked up too.
I actually miss Hillary, because I think she was willing to say what she felt despite the fact that it was unpopular. She's lived through watching her family dissolve. And she was wrong often and admitted it later. Last edited @ 9/13/2008 7:14 PM
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9/14/2008 11:44 AM
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Steve Rothstein
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 275
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RE: Who you want to be President?
Oldhag, one of the beauties of our system is the freedom for us each to disagree and stay polite. I do not like Hillary specifically for her policies. Her policies and activism when Bill was president actually got me so active in politics that I ran for congress to try to stop them (I lost but it was educational trying).
I do not recall ever hearing Hillary admitting she was wrong either, but that could be my political prejudices and how she words things. I have noted her ability to prevaricate, much like her husband and any other lawyer.
I like Palin and her general political attitudes. I disagree with some, but she does strike me as more of someone who will say what she believes.
Of the two main candidates, I think the McCain-Palin ticker is actually closer to center and more of what more Americans want than the Obama-Biden ticket. But neither ticket reflects their party platform very well.
And most people are voting based on the party and not the candidates. I wish we could could get the people overall to pay attention and keep a close watch on the politicians. The overall apathy of the people is the biggest problem I see in our political system. And that is from people on all sides of every issue.
The second biggest problem are the one issue voters. There are too many problems in our society and country to be one issue voters. I understand how some people take one issue as the litmus test or indicator of how the person will vote in other issues, but we need to look at all the issues.
And as I wrote that, I realized the second biggest problem might be people voting for what is best for them and not putting the country first. We need to fix the country before we take care of our own personal benefits. Of course, that rules out most politicians and forces a major change on our current political system.
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9/15/2008 7:01 PM
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wolfva
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 114
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RE: Who you want to be President?
Quote: Original post by peru4309
Ask the question are we better off now than we were 8 years ago? Economy? no Employment? no Foreign Affairs? no And the list go on and on.
I've actually taken that into thought, and it's why I decided to vote McCain/Palin. Because, up until 6 years ago, our economy was booming, unemployment was historically low, and foreign affairs was foreign affairs...always a boondoggle. What changed 6 years ago, though? The Democrats won Congress. Things have been going downhill ever since, and at an alarming rate. Bear in mind, as bad as Bush's poll numbers are, they're almost double Congresses. Oldhag, one verifiable truth about Palin is she actually IS a reformer. All the things she said she did in Alaska when she became Governor she did do, and Alaska has a much better government from everything I've read. For all the left's demonising of her, there IS a reason her Alaska polling numbers as Governor were what, in the 80 percentile range? I don't think even the Pope's got numbers that high...
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9/16/2008 5:12 AM
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SFCMike
Join Date: November 2007
Posts: 2
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Do We Want To Be A Socialist Nation?
Bill O'Reilley nailed Obama with this, and no one else had the cojones to say squat about it. If Obama gets elected, we will be leaps and bounds closer to being in fact a country with national socialist characteristics. It's bad enough that our too liberal politics of the last 40 years has allowed for an errosion of basic democratic and capitalist principles upon which this great nation was founded and prospered. But to allow a candidate who makes little effort to hide the fact that he favors a redistribution of wealth, which is straight out of Socialism 101, is abhorent to those who care to KNOW what their nation is really all about. If this trend continues, it WILL become easier for any local, state or national leader to use the police and State Militias in a way they deem necessary, not what our laws intend for their use. We all need to consider this as probably the most serious issue in this election NOT being addressed. If we acknolwedge that the media is by and large controlled by those who see dollars and cents and not SENSE, then it becomes easier to see why no one is addressing the overshadowing issues. I say all of this as a registered Democrat, who votes the person and the issues not on a party ticket with a 'blank check' endorsement. As the character Sgt. Phil Esterhaus-Michale Conrad-used to say, "Let's be careful out there!"
SFC Mike
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