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H.R. 2726

8/1/2007 7:49 AM

dogman

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 17

H.R. 2726


H.R. 2726 is in the house, with at least one difference regarding number of years required.


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8/1/2007 7:58 PM #1

Steve Rothstein

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 275

RE: H.R. 2726


Wow, there are some interesting changes in that.

For those of you who do not know how to get a federal bill's text, this is a proposed change to the LEOSA. It changes the definition of an officer to include the words "or apprehension" after statutory powers of arrest (clears up whether MP's are covered) and adds some other agencies such as AMTRAK.

It also changes retired officer to any officer who departs after 15 years and removes the requirement for a pension.

My only quibble with the wording is that it says "departed in good standing from service with a public agency after completing an aggregate of at least 15 years of service with the agency" and someone will argue that this does not apply unless you spent 15 years with ONE agency. This is what it says, though I think the intent is different from the word aggregate in there.

9/9/2007 12:15 PM #2

CPD169

Join Date: August 2007
Posts: 22

RE: H.R. 2726


I believe that all U.S. LEO's should be authorized to carry their firearms concealed in any U.S. state or territory just like our Federal counterparts do. When one gets down to where the rubber meets the road, it would appear to me that if LEO's joined together as one and refused to arrest a fellow LEO for merely carrying a firearm while otherwise causing no problems then it wouldn't really matter what the Congress passed or failed to pass. That's been my personal position throughout my career and I see no reason to change now.

As to retired LEO's, if they have an ID stating that they're a retired LEO, I apply the same standard to them.

That's my .02 worth.

9/11/2007 11:40 AM #3

SgtCozz

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7

LEOSA


I agree with CPD169. Unfortunately, it appears that in some parts of the country professional courtesy is merely an unpracticed concept. We should all band together for the common good.

9/14/2007 10:00 PM #4

TCPD0210

Join Date: June 2007
Posts: 7

Banding Together


Even if we banded together, we shouldn't forget the numerous DA's and others of similar title that like to make a name for themselves by prosecting police officers. I for one would like to have the strength of a law behind me if one of these self important types decides I am his ticket to a promotion.

As for professional courtesy, if we can't even get a break from some of our 'brothers' for a parking ticket, then forget it if we are carrying a firearm when or where we shouldn't.

11/16/2007 6:41 PM #5

stuartc

Join Date: June 2007
Posts: 1

RE: H.R. 2726


Do you think that you would feel the same way about a retired officer from Florida with 13 years of dedicated service whom was injured and had his career cut short after 13 years. I was injured when a woman hit my motor, my weak wrist was reattached, but I was forced to retire due to liability issues and no light duty. I was stopped in Philly with a valid retired I.D. card, sheild, and a valid Florida Concealed Weapons Permit. It took 2 Sgt.s and a Patrol Captain to "cut me loose" and provide professional courtesy after the patrol officer stopped me for 44 in a 35. I don't travel any more with my weapon to avoid the 55 minute debacle that almost sent me "down-town"!

11/18/2007 10:39 AM #6

ispcapt

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 13

LEOSA


You didn't need "professional courtesy" if your disability from the dept came under 926(c) (3)(B) regardless of how many years you had on prior to the crash as long as you completed your probationary period prior to your medical retirement. You are covered by LEOSA:

"(B) retired from service with such agency, after completing any applicable probationary period of such service, due to a service-connected disability, as determined by such agency;"

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