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June 2007

6/6/2007 3:04 PM

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June 2007


Consider the circumstances that faced Trooper Kelly Kalmbach when she confronted an apparently intoxicated driver possessing a legally carried firearm. Now ask yourself these questions: • How would you handle a citizen contact involving firearms? What is your agency's posture on those situations involving permitted firearms? • If you had a subject take flight from you—knowing that he would be putting himself within reach of a firearm to do so—how would you respond? • Do you have a survival mantra? What thoughts or prayers would keep you going if you found yourself badly wounded in a firefight?


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6/9/2007 10:05 AM #1

jnc36rcpd

Join Date: May 2007
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RE: June 2007


We seldom encounter CCW permits in the People's Republic of Maryland. That said, given the circumstances Trooper Kalmbach encountered (reckless driving, possible DWI), I think I would have secured the weapon in my cruiser. The agency has no particular posture on CCW holders.

I can't criticize Trooper Kalmbach's decision to pursue the suspect and deploy her taser when he ran for his car. Had things worked out differently, this would have been another suspect subdued by the taser without injury. In retrospect, of course, this did not work out. and going to guns might have been the better option.

Survival mantra? If, after all this training I've attended and presented, I'm going to look like a real idiot if I let this guy kill me.

Best of luck to Trooper Kallbach in her recovery.

6/9/2007 2:43 PM #2

yarbrough

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 70

RE: June 2007


jnc36rcpd... man, I like your survival mantra! Ditto. And I hope I don't look like a floundering idiot on my in-car video if a dirtball happens to take me out!!

stay safe!

6/18/2007 11:57 AM #3

fedcop76

Join Date: June 2007
Posts: 8

RE: June 2007


I also seldom encounter people carrying conceled living and working the Peoples Democratic Republic of New Jersey. chances are if they're carrying, they're a badge or they're shittems. Also New Jersey is one of the few states that prohibits the use of Tasers by law enforcement. so I really can't (and wouldn't) criticize Trooper Kalmbach's decision. If I were in that situation given the tools my department makes available to me I'd gave to go with with drawing down and attempting to challenge the individual. it's the only thing I have to use against a suspect who's at a distance and going for a firearm. I hope our fellow sister recovers swiftly and can move on from this bad situation. Our departmental policy is back up will always be used on any stop. We generally have enough people on shift to back up stops anytime. granted the vehicle stopped may have to wait awhile before I approach but my Director and patrol division commander said they'll take complaints over an injured officer any day. If all of our patrols are tied up - common sense tells me don't initiate a stop until more units are available or clear their last. but If I have to stop someone and no ones available our neighboring towns or the state are always glad to send one of their officers/troopers for b/u. As we do the same for them.

Stay cool - Stay safe.

6/18/2007 1:18 PM #4

Steve Rothstein

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 263

RE: June 2007


I have to admit that I hate hearing that an officer made a tactical decision based on if she would get complained on. In Texas, the law allows an offcier to disarm any person carrying under the authority of their CHL, so I would not worry about the complaint.

I would have to say I probably would not have disarmed him either, but for a different reason. In Texas, the background check for a CHL is almost as stringent as for a police officer, so I tend to think of the people carrying with one as the good guys. But in this case, the fact that he had never been a bad guy before was irrelevant to the danger.

I like the way she thought and reacted. Remembering the "I am going to survive" mantra was a good thing. The right mindset makes a big difference, especially if you consider how close she came to dying from the brachial artery cut. I hope her nerve damage is healable or repairable and she can return to full duty.

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